anyone heard of a "kit" for the 6 cyl?

 

Hi!

I guess you could supercharge your Cayenne since it's eninge is essentially the V6 out of a Golf R32 and there are supercharger kits for the Golf. It's not very common though, this engine usually gets turbocharged rather than supercharged.

Let me quote myself from this thread:

 

That's odd, my P-car dealer says it's only part VW- the intake, fuel injection & delivery as well as the heads are all Porsche. Thik he's lying? It moves a lot better than the Touareg I test drove.

 

It's a VW 3.2 upgraded with some porsche parts.

make a search on google regarding cayenne V6... it's pretty clear.

though it does use some porsche parts... it's a VW engine.

The VW 3.2 develops about 230hp on the touareg i beleive, where as the porsche version develops 250...
next cayenne will use VW 3.6l used in the passat and in the new Q7 V6 (about 280hp)

Oh yeah, and use a golf turbocharger... get it up to 400hp and let us know what happens

this should do it; http://hpamotorsports.com/product_turbo_ft400.htm

 

I didn't mean to say it's identical. I honestly don't know what exactly Porsche did to the engine, I know it's pretty close though. Here's what Wikipedia says:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Porsche_Cayenne

HGP is specialized in turbocharging VWs, especially the V(R)6. The Cayenne S is the first and only Porsche they offer any kind of performance upgrade for, go figure...

EDIT:
The 3.2 actually develops 241hp in the mark IV Golf R32 and 250hp in the mark V. As you said, the Porsche version develops 250hp as well. Torque is nearly identical too, so I'm not sure what Porsche did but it surely didn't change much. I guess it's mostly marketing to comfort Cayenne S buyers, which obviously wouldn't want a VW engine in their Porsche...

 

"The 3.2-liter V6, snatched from the Touareg, has had extensive modification to guarantee Porsche performance."
It is pretty clear that there is a pretty big difference; and then there are the handling capabilities- the V6 handles better than the other Cayenne models because of the lighter engine. Since the turbo enters the engine via the intake ( a Porsche, not VW part) I would be hesitant o try it on my own car. I would like to see them do it on their own test car and then see them provide verifiable long-term test results from an independent source.
FYI- a wiki (such as Wikipedia) is the least reliable source of information- anyone can author and edit the text (my 6 year old could post a bio of Sir Issac Newton on Wikipedia).

 

As mentioned before, I didn't mean to say the engines are identical, I'm not doubting it has been modified. Maybe somebody else here can enlighten us on what exactly those modifications are. But to be honest, I'm not too impressed with their "extensive modifications to guarantee Porsche performance", considering the VW V6s are putting out the same amount of hp and torque. (see: Golf R32 mark V)

Did you check out the link I posted?

Single turbo:


Twinturbo:


As for the long-term test results, I'm afraid I can't provide any. It's probably not as reliable as the stock car, but that's of course a given when doing those kind of modifications.


I really don't want to start an argument here. I'm in no way affiliated with HGP or HPA, nor do I have a Cayenne, just trying to help out a fellow member with what I know.

 

one of those universal remote turbos may work better and be MUCH less expensive.

 

An STS remote system would indeed work on a Cayenne.

The universal kit is $3k and produces 30-50% increase with no engine mods.

You'd actually remove the stock muffler, that opens up enough space for the turbo and plumbing.

Works like this: Cut off the muffler at the rear of a car, weld in a turbocharger there. Run a pipe from the turbo back to the intake of the engine. The turbo has it's own cooling system, no need for oiling pipes.

Reviews say it gives a bit of lag, but no worse than other turbo systems.

That'd be 325-380hp on the V6.

 

would look kinda' like this:

they say stock cars run 5-6 psi at about 30% power increase. Might get 10-12psi with computer tuning and hi-octane fuel.

 

i'm pretty sure the VF kit from the R32 can be put on it.... same motor.

 

Same engine block, not the same motor. Once you change the intake, heads, fuel delivery, and exhaust it's not the same motor. That's kind of like saying my 8 yr old and my 6 yr old are the same kid because they have the same parents and look so much alike (although at this moment in time I wish my 6 yr old was the same kid as my 8 yr old).

Hey GoldenPEPPA, are you getting ready to bolt a turbo on? I'd love to hear about the true user experience- not an advertisement from a person or an outfit that sells and/or installs them.

 

Owning a P shop and having participated in 996/7 talk, I find this Cayenne bunch pretty cool. Sometimes (often), the "other" discussion boards get feisty and unproductive during a string as long as this one.
Subject at hand. Client wants us to get more performance from a 6 cyl Cayenne. Has owned "S" as well as "Turbo" version but just loves the 6 shooter!
I asked here because I don't do much work on the Cayenne (yet), in particular, performance work. Probably because no one needs it they just go out and get the "S".
VERT informative about the Golf R22.
Problem with turbocharging is substantial due to the "production" Long Block and resulting parts. Compression ratio is very high and would need to be dropped down a bit. Pistons are cast type and would need replacement to forged design for durability, or ELSE!
THIS all spell significant cost factor in turbocharging for RELIABILITY.
So,, supercharging at low boost may be best of cost world and reliablity world. In order to fabricate all the pieces to make a "blown" 6 cyl work really well AND reliable, again the initial investment in time and material would not be cost effective on our part. IF this Golf R22 kit could be adapted in supercharging format that may be a direction to pursue.
Truth be told, I so busy doing 911's I don't think I have the "energy" to invest in this project as it would be a "one off" deal. My career has been (in part) successful because of repetitive project replication. Cayenne 6 cyl supercharging would not be high on anyone's list of performance options because (as I would encourage) just trade up for a 8cly. which is a real nice "bahn burner". havefuntakechancesdriveporsche-Mark-www.formulamotorsports.com

 

Maybe I should have bought an S, but there is so much traffic here in the NY Metro area there is no real room to push it past the limits of the V6. Off the line the V6 is not quick, but once on the highway, downshift and it has plenty of passing power. Truth is, it replaced my wife's minivan, but she loves my Audi so we switched. Once the lease is Feb 1, 2008 I will try and get her to take the Cayenne for her regular car, and then I'll buy a C4. Problem is that she doesn't want anything too big (she's just 5'2"), and she's afraid of it getting scratched up in the lots of the supermarket, etc.
I push it to its limits, and would like more power at those times, but realistically it is enough for the roads around here. The Touareg was less powerful and lumbered around the curves while my Cayenne carves them with precision and more power- a much better buy of a much better vehicle.

 

I too have been looking for performance upgrades for my V6. I added the fabspeed cat bypass pipe and my wifes HATES it and wants it taken out ASAP. My butt dyno says it added a bit more power but nothing substantial. Maybe 5-15HP? The raspy note and interior chatter is the main reason my wife dislikes the mod.

I have been keeping my eye on used Cayenne Turbo prices and feel that may be a better way to go instead of thinking SC or Turbo charging my existing car. I guess the V6 was never intended on being a high performance SUV in the way the TT was. The power is more than enough for my wife to use daily... but on those occasions when I get behind the wheel it leaves me wanting for more power... maybe I'm spoiled by my "other" cars???