'12 Cayenne S Engine Stall
#47
Well. I wouldn't be happy if it happened to me. All I'm saying is...if there are 600 people on these forums and you only hear 4-5 people complain about it, then is it really widespread? I mean, what is that, less than 1%.
And yes, If I were you and spent that much on a car, I'd be pissed and after Porsche all day and night. So, I'm with you there. My point being, if it is such a small percentage of people, it could be just related to a few specific builds and shouldn't affect a buyer from buying the car because they think that it will stop when they make a turn. It might be you just got the lemon on the lot which can happen to anyone. Heck, I bought a Toyota Truck...yes reliability right, well, at around 75k, I had head gasket issues and I drive that truck like a grandma. Uh, head gasket, Toyota? I probably got the lemon on the lot.
#48
I can kinda understand too (both sides of the argument). My cayenne hasn't had any stalling issues, but my wife was driving our CLS55 once when it stalled in the middle of an intersection. Totally unexpected and unexplained, from such a reliable car, and never happened again, but it really freaked her out. It's happened to me before on my Lexus too (cold weather). Not indicative of any serious problems I don't think, but it's just sometimes the nature of cars to stall. If you've driven stick shift, you probably just shrug whenever it happens and turn the engine back on.
Now on the other hand, if it's a repetitive thing (like some people on the thread are reporting), that sounds like a real issue, which Porsche needs to address. But in all likelihood, a class action lawsuit just ain't gonna happen, because so few people seem to be reporting the issue. Porsche (and the dealer) definitely need to take care of the people affected though, and I hope it gets resolved for them. Keep us updated!
Now on the other hand, if it's a repetitive thing (like some people on the thread are reporting), that sounds like a real issue, which Porsche needs to address. But in all likelihood, a class action lawsuit just ain't gonna happen, because so few people seem to be reporting the issue. Porsche (and the dealer) definitely need to take care of the people affected though, and I hope it gets resolved for them. Keep us updated!
#49
https://www.6speedonline.com/forums/...ck-engine.html
http://forums.rennlist.com/rennforum...-issues-2.html
Thread #24
DME (ECU?) & High fuel pressure pump replacement might help. Hope this help and pls keep us updated
#50
This is the two thread I've found which MAY related to the engine stall issue.
https://www.6speedonline.com/forums/...ck-engine.html
http://forums.rennlist.com/rennforum...-issues-2.html
Thread #24
DME (ECU?) & High fuel pressure pump replacement might help. Hope this help and pls keep us updated
https://www.6speedonline.com/forums/...ck-engine.html
http://forums.rennlist.com/rennforum...-issues-2.html
Thread #24
DME (ECU?) & High fuel pressure pump replacement might help. Hope this help and pls keep us updated
Ok then, might I suggest something for the people who seem to have this problem the most, just for kicks, spend a few $$$ and replace the fuel pump and report back in a few months of spirited driving and turns to see if you still have issues. This may just put this issue to rest.
I say this because we all know if the Porsche dealership can't reproduce the problem, then you have no problem. And even if they reproduce it once, they need to reproduce it all the time before they can figure out the issue. And it isn't a class action unless everyone has the issue. Yes, maybe Porsche is ignorant, but how do you expect them to fix something they can't reproduce? Think it is up to people who have this issue and want to keep their car to start swapping suspected parts, look at the computer, etc.
Last edited by frank69m; 01-11-2012 at 07:05 AM.
#51
I wouldn't buy a cayenne right now knowing that if I have a serious problem, like recurrent stalling that Porsche would pretend it's not happening or not know what to do to fix it. With Porsche u r on ur own. That's all I'm saying. Mire over there is m
#52
More over there are more than 5-6 people with this problem. It's a lot more pervasive. I know folks w/ same prob who are not on this thread or reporting it online. The dealers and PNA know it's more serious.
#55
Does your state have a lemon law? I have a couple friends who've gotten stuck with lemons before, and while not a fun process to deal with, they were able to get the dealer to buy back the car under lemon law.
ALSO: something that could really help your cause, take a video of the car stalling (have a friend who's driven a manual before help you out, if you're really that scared of it) and post on youtube. Something like that lends credibility to your cause, and can kick PNA into gear.
#56
If you really hate Porsche now, why don't you just sell the car?
finiteyoda, they can't consider it a lemon unless they've actually tried to fix it and they failed a number of times. Nothing they can re-produce to fix.
Last edited by frank69m; 01-11-2012 at 05:58 PM.
#59
5000 miles of fairly spirited driving and never a problem..knock knock...(V maxed it a few times..175 is the most i could do)
Though if stalling is like when the auto stop comes on,where you have no engine running,but also no steering nor brakes..that has got to be
I have noticed(fortunately when stopped at a light with my foot on brake!)that when the auto stop engages and i try to move the steering wheel..no can do..like its dead in the water...
..To have that happen as you are driving along!!!!WTF???
5 cases is 5 cases too much!..someone could have gotten hurt!!
Porsche should have addressed the problem after the FIRST complaint...
Though if stalling is like when the auto stop comes on,where you have no engine running,but also no steering nor brakes..that has got to be
I have noticed(fortunately when stopped at a light with my foot on brake!)that when the auto stop engages and i try to move the steering wheel..no can do..like its dead in the water...
..To have that happen as you are driving along!!!!WTF???
5 cases is 5 cases too much!..someone could have gotten hurt!!
Porsche should have addressed the problem after the FIRST complaint...
Last edited by pepper09tt; 01-11-2012 at 06:29 PM.
#60
Stall
Hey Guys,
Ditto for us too! We have a 2011 Cayenne V6/Tiptronic that we ordered mid 2010 and took delivery of late 2010. We currently have 15,000 miles on it and today for the first time it stalled out multiple times upon shifting into Drive. It has never happened before but today did it repeatedly until after a short period of time when it decided to work again. It would be great to get to the bottom of this, this is not a great problem to have.
Also, we NEVER turn on the Auto Start/Stop.
Ditto for us too! We have a 2011 Cayenne V6/Tiptronic that we ordered mid 2010 and took delivery of late 2010. We currently have 15,000 miles on it and today for the first time it stalled out multiple times upon shifting into Drive. It has never happened before but today did it repeatedly until after a short period of time when it decided to work again. It would be great to get to the bottom of this, this is not a great problem to have.
Also, we NEVER turn on the Auto Start/Stop.