ive been using p21s, and rejex, and zymbol..

to be honest.. they all work the same to me, but i could be wrong

what do you guys suggest ?
i will be waxing the car once a month, with a "quick detailer" every week during the car wash

car is a silver 996 turbo

 

A good polish to start. Meguire's Tech Wax every 2 months, Meguires spray detailer once a week. For having silver to work with it does pretty well.

 

On Silver cars, I use 4 Star Ultimate Paint Protection (sealant) topped with LIQUID Souveran. Looks great to me on the lighter cars.

 

I love the depth of my Zymol Vintage on my Silver Tempest Bentley GT. I will get some pics when it's a nice day out.

 

zymol is king

 

Stryke, you hit the nail on the head. You can't beat a carnuaba wax especially zymol Vintage. Very nice wax you have!! I detail a bunch of exotics and luxury cars in the NJ/NY area and I love putting the zymol on the garage queens..the depth and shine you get from a carnuaba is unmatched in my opinion. Just my .02 cents everyone. Hope this helps. Paul W.

 

Since you are going to wax the car once a month it doesnt really matter what wax you will be using, but syntetic waxes are desgned to better protect the finish. Carnuba is so great because it fills in the pores of the paint but it does not give you good protection.
On a silver car where the paint is in a good condition before applying any wax or glaze to cover any swirl marks you cant really see a difference between carnuba or syntetic.

What products do you use to wash the car?
Do you sometimes after a drive when you go back home just wipe down the car quickly becuase it seems dusty?

 

You guys haven't tried Swissvax yet have you

 

It's time to put the myth of carnaubas don't last as long as synthetics behind. For most part it's true of the cheaper products. Try putting some zymol Concours on a car and see how you only wax a daily driver 3 times a year. Carnauba has been around since the time of the egyptians. It's amazing stuff, especially the good stuff.

 

It's not for garage queens any more Because of Vintage's high concentration and quality of carnauba, it's an excellent choice for a daily driver too. It provides AMAZING depth and clarity along with excellent protection from the elements.

 

Yes we did.
But as I said at first this is a case of a car that will be waxed once a month. Even a wax from an Autoparts place will last that long
And then I dont know what eyes you guys are looking with but after 10 years and thousands of cars I still dont see a difference in a silver car that is waxed with carnuba or synthetic. Unless the paint is in a bad condition and all we are trying to do is cover up the swirl marks by waxing it. Then YES the carnuba is better, but what happens when the wax wears off...all back to square one. So when the paint is polished right and 99.8% of swirls are removed the wax and glaze will only go on to protect the paint.

 

I cannot speak for any other wax than zymol and einszett as I use them in my routine daily. There is a difference between the two on any color car. The difference is in how the light hits the finish and how the light is reflected back. Clarity wise, the mettalic paint is almost close when using both products. The difference is the amount of shine. IMHO, shine takes away from depth. Zymol has a signature "warm" glow and the einszett is strkingly more shiny and glossy. Nothing wrong with either one, just a matter of preference. Technically, the clear on a darker car isn't different than a clear on a silver or lighter car. So if you see a difference in a dark colored car between using synthetics and naturals, the difference is also there on a lighter colored car; just not as evident.

We can all agree that the prep work is the most important step. So now, the question is after all the hard work, what do you want protecting the perfection just attained through hours of machine polishing and how do you want it to show. This now becomes a case-by-case and each detailer will have his/her own preference. Remember, detailers at this level of the game should be consdered an artist. No two artists are alike. So, do you want a Rembrandt, Monet, Picasso, etc. The choice becomes the client's.

When it comes to protection, as long as you're washing the car with a mild soap, designed not to strip the wax, you're in good shape. Using a spray carnauba or a synthetic polymer-based detail spray is the key to prolonging the wax applied in the traditional manner.

 

I want Peter Lugar .

All true Moe.

 

Moe, that was very well put and I agree with you 100%. I love the Zymol Concours. It is an amazing product. As for the difference in carnuaba and synthetic, there is one little aspect you guys did not touch on and that is reflectivity. With a carnuaba wax applied, you get 100% reflectivity which in a basic explanation means that when light hits your cars paint(clear coat first, then your paint which ever color that may be, then bounces back to the clear coat and to your eye), and it has no interuption if all defects are taken out of the paint, then the appearance of the car can't be matched. As for a synthetic, the reflectivity is 80%. The synthetic almost acts like a filter when the light is reflecting off your cars surface. Now I know synthetics last longer than carnuaba but when I detail a car, I want to bring out the most in a cars finish, so I usually use a carnuaba. I guess each to their own opinion but really like how you put everything together Moe.

 

Who is a Peter Lugar? The steak guy?