Wax and sealant
#1
Wax and sealant
Can you layer a sealant on top of a coat of carnuaba? I meant to apply some Jetseal before I put on a coat of wax but forgot. Will it still 'bond' if I put it on top of wax?
#2
Hope this helps.
#4
Ok, same topic, different question. Washed the car again this weekend. CG Citrus to remove the wax layer. Reclayed again (b/c I'm OCD), glaze (yeah, no polish again), 2 coats of Jetseal.
Now, what is the opinion on applying a carnuaba on top of the sealant? Waste of time?
Second, I assume the sealant will remain after a few rewashes? 3-3.5 months is what I've heard/read.
Thanks.
Now, what is the opinion on applying a carnuaba on top of the sealant? Waste of time?
Second, I assume the sealant will remain after a few rewashes? 3-3.5 months is what I've heard/read.
Thanks.
#6
+1...I agree.
#7
^^thanks guys. I applied the jetseal to the clear bra areas. I assume that was a total waste, right?
As far as a wax, I use Swissvax Zuffenhausen. Is that okay to use on the clearbra or should I go for some type of spray-on wax?
As far as a wax, I use Swissvax Zuffenhausen. Is that okay to use on the clearbra or should I go for some type of spray-on wax?
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#8
^^ The Zuffenhausen will work just fine on your clear bra. It is just important to remember that you can only use waxes with bleached carnauba, otherwise it will discolor the clear film.
As far as the steps that you took when applying the Jetseal, you want to put it over as bare of a paint surface as possible. It is good that you cleaned it first with the CG Citrus to remove any residual wax layer, but adding the glaze before the Jetseal can be problematic.
A glaze's primary purpose is cosmetic. It is designed to hide defects and increase depth and shine. These are obviously good. But the heavy oil base that makes it work well as a cosmetic enhancement is negative in terms of its impact on the bonding quality of protective layers like Jetseal or Collinite.
The sealant is designed to work best when used on a virgin clearcoat, that is why we take such care to remove any polishing oils before applying our protection, it increases the quality of the bond between the protectant and your clearcoat. By applying the Glaze before the Jetseal, I think that you may have compromised that bond, and thus the longevity of its protection.
The only change that you need to make is your order in the layering process. Hit it with the Jetseal first, on your bare clearcoat. Then apply your glaze, and wax over it. That way you are getting the absolute most out of all the products that you are using, both in terms of their protection and cosmetically as well.
As far as the steps that you took when applying the Jetseal, you want to put it over as bare of a paint surface as possible. It is good that you cleaned it first with the CG Citrus to remove any residual wax layer, but adding the glaze before the Jetseal can be problematic.
A glaze's primary purpose is cosmetic. It is designed to hide defects and increase depth and shine. These are obviously good. But the heavy oil base that makes it work well as a cosmetic enhancement is negative in terms of its impact on the bonding quality of protective layers like Jetseal or Collinite.
The sealant is designed to work best when used on a virgin clearcoat, that is why we take such care to remove any polishing oils before applying our protection, it increases the quality of the bond between the protectant and your clearcoat. By applying the Glaze before the Jetseal, I think that you may have compromised that bond, and thus the longevity of its protection.
The only change that you need to make is your order in the layering process. Hit it with the Jetseal first, on your bare clearcoat. Then apply your glaze, and wax over it. That way you are getting the absolute most out of all the products that you are using, both in terms of their protection and cosmetically as well.
Last edited by GlisteningTech; 01-14-2010 at 06:56 PM.
#9
^^ The Zuffenhausen will work just fine on your clear bra. It is just important to remember that you can only use waxes with bleached carnauba, otherwise it will discolor the clear film.
As far as the steps that you took when applying the Jetseal, you want to put it over as bare of a paint surface as possible. It is good that you cleaned it first with the CG Citrus to remove any residual wax layer, but adding the glaze before the Jetseal can be problematic.
A glaze's primary purpose is cosmetic. It is designed to hide defects and increase depth and shine. These are obviously good.
The sealant is designed to work best when used on a virgin clearcoat, that is why we take such care to remove any polishing oils before applying our protection, it increases the quality of the bond between the protectant and your clearcoat. By applying the Glaze before the Jetseal, I think that you may have compromised that bond, and thus the longevity of its protection.
The only change that you need to make is your order in the layering process. Hit it with the Jetseal first, on your bare clearcoat. Then apply your glaze, and wax over it. That way you are getting the absolute most out of all the products that you are using, both in terms of their protection and cosmetically as well.
As far as the steps that you took when applying the Jetseal, you want to put it over as bare of a paint surface as possible. It is good that you cleaned it first with the CG Citrus to remove any residual wax layer, but adding the glaze before the Jetseal can be problematic.
A glaze's primary purpose is cosmetic. It is designed to hide defects and increase depth and shine. These are obviously good.
The sealant is designed to work best when used on a virgin clearcoat, that is why we take such care to remove any polishing oils before applying our protection, it increases the quality of the bond between the protectant and your clearcoat. By applying the Glaze before the Jetseal, I think that you may have compromised that bond, and thus the longevity of its protection.
The only change that you need to make is your order in the layering process. Hit it with the Jetseal first, on your bare clearcoat. Then apply your glaze, and wax over it. That way you are getting the absolute most out of all the products that you are using, both in terms of their protection and cosmetically as well.
I applied a layer of the glaze followed by 2 coats of Jetseal. Please don't tell me I wasted all that time.....
#10
^^ Don't worry, it isn't a waste at all. You are still getting all the protection provided by those layers, it simply won't last as long as it would have should you applied it first.
Think of it this way, the glaze is probably the weakest link in that chain, so it will be stripped away as quickly as the glaze allows. If you would have put the Jetseal first, it would last as long as it can, rather than only as long as the glaze lets it.
Don't worry about it though, when you notice the paint doesn't bead quite as well, or a few of those hairline scratches start to come back, it just tells you it is time to do it again.
Practice makes perfect.
Think of it this way, the glaze is probably the weakest link in that chain, so it will be stripped away as quickly as the glaze allows. If you would have put the Jetseal first, it would last as long as it can, rather than only as long as the glaze lets it.
Don't worry about it though, when you notice the paint doesn't bead quite as well, or a few of those hairline scratches start to come back, it just tells you it is time to do it again.
Practice makes perfect.
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