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Old 02-23-2010 | 10:45 PM
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Paint Protectant

I am getting advised by a detailer (friend of mine...good guy) to go with a paint protectant product that I am not familiar with. It is called something like Zylon or similar (but definitely not zymol). Apparently you heat a portion of the car surface with a heat gun...apply product and it cures very rapidly. Result is a bonded layer above the clear that protects from chemical damage to the clear (bird poop, water spots, etc.).
Does anyone have experience with this approach? Is this what is called a PPS?
Any info would be appreciated.
 
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Old 02-24-2010 | 08:22 AM
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I'm not familiar with it, but it almost sounds like getting a car laminated! Hopefully the experts will offer up the correct answer soon. I'm curious as well.
 
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Old 02-24-2010 | 09:05 AM
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It sounds like Matrix Micro Coatings, which is the most durable paint sealant on the market. It is cured with infrared curing lamps, not a heat gun. Here is their website.

www.matrixmicrocoatings.com

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Old 02-24-2010 | 10:41 PM
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DetailJohn,
Thanks for the reply, but I don't think it is that product, but sounds very similar. He was very clear that you use a heat gun...heat a 2x2, then apply. It cures based on the heat and you need to buff out within like 30 seconds or any swirls will need to be polished out. I think he said it was made by an aerospace company (northrop?) or similar high tech deal. Again, I think the name was like Zylon or something that you would confuse with Zaino or Zymol. My guess is that the "lon" suffix implies PTFE.
The product is expensive to apply, so I am trying to get a feel for the cost/benefit. Also...how does it wear (yellowing? Cracking? wears off?).
Anybody have any experience with it?
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Lifetime Paint Protection
Xzilon, Simonize, DuPont PTFE™, etc -there is no polymer, synthetic or natural wax, or after-market coating available that can provide a five year or lifetime protection to a paint film surface; this technology doesn't exist, read the fine print in the contract offered by car dealerships.
There is normally a clause that states you should return the vehicle for a "maintenance" application of the product (at 3 or 6 months intervals) failing to do this will void your warranty or the fine print will basically exclude every condition you could claim against
The primary protection provided for a modern water-based colour coat is a polythene paint that has a thickness of (127 - 178 µ) comprise a Primer coat of 2Mils (50 µ) a Colour coat of 1-2Mils (25 -50 µ) and Clear coat 2-3Mils (50 - 75 µ) An applied paint protection product is the entire barrier that provides protection for automotive paintwork besides the clear coat paint and this renewable barrier is probably less than 0.001Mil (0.0254 µm)
 
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Old 02-26-2010 | 12:15 PM
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DetailJohn,
Thanks for the reply, but I don't think it is that product, but sounds very similar. He was very clear that you use a heat gun...heat a 2x2, then apply. It cures based on the heat and you need to buff out within like 30 seconds or any swirls will need to be polished out. I think he said it was made by an aerospace company (northrop?) or similar high tech deal. Again, I think the name was like Zylon or something that you would confuse with Zaino or Zymol. My guess is that the "lon" suffix implies PTFE.
The product is expensive to apply, so I am trying to get a feel for the cost/benefit. Also...how does it wear (yellowing? Cracking? wears off?).
Anybody have any experience with it?
MDM
I have had plenty of experience with Xzilon, definitely not worth applying. You can usually purchase it on ebay for around $20. I would just recommend waxing regularly.


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That product is garbage(Zilon), in my opinion. There is a chain of dealers here in Tampa that push it in the F&I office for added gross. They bank on consumers not honoring their end of the contract. One of my clients had it applied to his Tahoe for a whopping $500-. The dealer claimed he would never have to wax his truck again and he bought into it. He just recently had to have the whole front end of the truck repainted, the dealer actually picked up the tab because he was with-in contract requirement.
To make a short story longer, the product is a disaster if applied wrong, it will cause a lot more harm than good. Treating your paint with a great polish and wax will do the trick.
 
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Old 02-27-2010 | 11:43 AM
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All...thanks for the input. I keep my car pretty clean and smooth. It is a garage queen and is protected from most hazards (as best you can...). Even if it stands up to all it's claims, I don't see it as a good fit, because I don't really have the need for additional paint protection...especially at that price. Add on horror stories relating to poor application...not for me.

Thanks!
 
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