Water-less wash, or bottled car wash, is it safe?
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10-13-2011, 11:48 AM
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Water-less wash, or bottled car wash, is it safe?
Hey everyone,
I love the idea of water-less wash
, but i always wonder is safe enough as using mittens with high lube soap to wipe things down 
. Would it leave scratches?
Whats the proper way to use them? Any type you guys recommend?
Where I stance, I hate luggage the hose, and the big huge bucket of soap all around my car. I'm 4foot guy and I like things simple
. I spend more using detailed spray than hosing down my car because it's so much efforts to wash my car. I takes me 1 hour 20 minutes just to wash and waffled down the car in the old fashion way. So that's why i'm considering using water-less wash. My car gets dirty, but at least it's now sitting outside a lot because it's an garage baby 
.
I love the idea of water-less wash
, but i always wonder is safe enough as using mittens with high lube soap to wipe things down . Would it leave scratches? Whats the proper way to use them? Any type you guys recommend?
Where I stance, I hate luggage the hose, and the big huge bucket of soap all around my car. I'm 4foot guy and I like things simple
. I spend more using detailed spray than hosing down my car because it's so much efforts to wash my car. I takes me 1 hour 20 minutes just to wash and waffled down the car in the old fashion way. So that's why i'm considering using water-less wash. My car gets dirty, but at least it's now sitting outside a lot because it's an garage baby .
#3
10-14-2011, 02:09 AM
How does ONR work?
[The polymers in No Rinse have reactive groups that bond and trap dirt particles making the dirt particles virtually non-abrasive. They also bond to oily particles and emulsify them into water.
The latter is equivalent to the cleaning action from soaps which also work by emulsifying oil particles into water. However, with soap there is no interaction with dirt. This is why adding No Rinse to a regular wash also helps protect the paint from dirt particles.
The No Rinse polymers also bond to all automotive surfaces and create a slick surface and act as a barrier to protect paint from marring. That is something that soap will not provide since surfactants in soaps have no affinity for painted or other automotive surfaces.
When you use 1 oz. of No Rinse in 1 or 2 gallons of water for your wash at the molecular level this provides hundreds of billions of polymer molecules to do what was said above. Additional product will not be necessary except if you are using tap water that contains high levels of minerals such as calcium hydroxide or silicates. In these cases some of the polymers will bond to these minerals and take them out of solution therefore more product might be necessary to compensate for this effect. This is another reason why adding No Rinse to regular car wash soap improves the results when using tap water. ] - David Ghodoussi - Optimum Polymer Technologies
Optimum No Rinse™ videos - http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...00996428313622
[The polymers in No Rinse have reactive groups that bond and trap dirt particles making the dirt particles virtually non-abrasive. They also bond to oily particles and emulsify them into water.
The latter is equivalent to the cleaning action from soaps which also work by emulsifying oil particles into water. However, with soap there is no interaction with dirt. This is why adding No Rinse to a regular wash also helps protect the paint from dirt particles.
The No Rinse polymers also bond to all automotive surfaces and create a slick surface and act as a barrier to protect paint from marring. That is something that soap will not provide since surfactants in soaps have no affinity for painted or other automotive surfaces.
When you use 1 oz. of No Rinse in 1 or 2 gallons of water for your wash at the molecular level this provides hundreds of billions of polymer molecules to do what was said above. Additional product will not be necessary except if you are using tap water that contains high levels of minerals such as calcium hydroxide or silicates. In these cases some of the polymers will bond to these minerals and take them out of solution therefore more product might be necessary to compensate for this effect. This is another reason why adding No Rinse to regular car wash soap improves the results when using tap water. ] - David Ghodoussi - Optimum Polymer Technologies
Optimum No Rinse™ videos - http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...00996428313622
Last edited by TOGWT; 10-14-2011 at 02:11 AM.
#4
10-14-2011, 02:45 AM
I use no rinse when car is mildly dirty from a drive. If its pretty grimey, I would wash it with hose.
If you like buckets, there is a bucket less wash at auto supply store that makes it easier.
A detailed car wash including wheel cleaning takes me an hour. The rinse less wash takes 20 min without wheel cleaning. Make sure you clean the wheel often so the paint doesn't pit with brake dust ver time.
If you like buckets, there is a bucket less wash at auto supply store that makes it easier.
A detailed car wash including wheel cleaning takes me an hour. The rinse less wash takes 20 min without wheel cleaning. Make sure you clean the wheel often so the paint doesn't pit with brake dust ver time.
#6
10-18-2011, 04:51 PM
Yes a waterless wash can be safe. There are a number of products on the market. Some are great others aren't. I use 5 gallons of waterless product in about a month.
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10-25-2011, 11:54 AM
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#13
10-26-2011, 05:02 AM
Couple years ag I used a waterless wash (can't remember brand name). It worked. No problems. I bought large supply and sold a lot of it. Had regular customers who loved it.
I stopped using it because:
1. I'm old skool and missed the freshness of water
2. It was more work, required more elbow grease.
I stopped using it because:
1. I'm old skool and missed the freshness of water
2. It was more work, required more elbow grease.
#14
10-26-2011, 07:09 AM
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Couple years ag I used a waterless wash (can't remember brand name). It worked. No problems. I bought large supply and sold a lot of it. Had regular customers who loved it.
I stopped using it because:
1. I'm old skool and missed the freshness of water
2. It was more work, required more elbow grease.
I stopped using it because:
1. I'm old skool and missed the freshness of water
2. It was more work, required more elbow grease.
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10-26-2011, 07:22 PM
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-Moe, I will...
-ice350, I do agree with you on the old fashion shower. Nothing beat our hottie in the showering cold water. How ever, I'm a short driver, 4 foot, lugging the hose back and forward with bucket as well, taken me about an hour and a half. So it might be convenient for me.
-ice350, I do agree with you on the old fashion shower. Nothing beat our hottie in the showering cold water. How ever, I'm a short driver, 4 foot, lugging the hose back and forward with bucket as well, taken me about an hour and a half. So it might be convenient for me.
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