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Old 03-28-2009, 10:10 PM
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Originally Posted by BCS996TT
Highly Doubtful...the price of the replacement will be in upwards of 250K + and right now people arent even dropping the coin on the current 430s at bargain prices. Keep in mind, you're talking about ferrari here. They certainly are not going to flood the market with 430 replacements only to have a bunch of cars sitting on the showroom floors unsold in this **** economy. If they are smart and we know they are, they will have a limited production (more so than the 430) and yes, there will be a list and yes people will wait.

The current 430 owners who cant afford to upgrade will simply keep their car and the ones that are sitting around now b/c the owners had to sell will eventually be snatched up and the 430 market will recover. It will obviously never be the way it used to be, but I dont think it's going to tank b/c of the replacement. Far from it IMO.

You always see it whenever a new model comes out regardless of car. I noticed it when the 430 came out and that's how I picked up my 996TT for a song. Most people have the obsession with latest and greatest so I'm expecting it to happen again.
 
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Originally Posted by Finality
You always see it whenever a new model comes out regardless of car. I noticed it when the 430 came out and that's how I picked up my 996TT for a song. Most people have the obsession with latest and greatest so I'm expecting it to happen again.
You are not comparing apples to apples here. Sure with a mass produced car, it always happens. The 996TT was way overproduced and that's why the values tanked. The 993 Turbo has held up very well and the 996TT was it's successor. Look at the 993 Turbo S...solid. It's all about production numbers and You can not compare Porsche and Ferrari in this situation. Porsche is a mass produced car... ferrari is not.

When the 430 came out, did 360 values tank? No. When the 430 came out, the market was "strong" and the price wasnt that much more than the MSRP of the 360. Yet the 360 didnt drop like a rock...if anything it held it's value quite well for a long time.

Now you have a crap economy, where people are getting rid of their cars b/c they simply cant afford them and have other priorities. That's why the values are in the crapper....NOT b/c the 430 replacement is on the way. It's all about production numbers and the replacement's numbers will be a lot less than that of the 430 b/c of the current situation. There are a lot of 430 owners who will not upgrade to the replacement b/c of price alone. The number of available 430s is slowly shrinking b/c people are taking advantage of the bargain prices and with the current production numbers of 09 (ridiculously low), the 430 is not going to be flooding the markets anywhere near the 996tt or any other mass produced car.
 

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^^ i agree they are dropping because people can't afford them

Here's a nice one to grab. These bad boys were upper 400's for a while (why I never figured out with a 290k msrp car) but they were and now 5 months later

http://www.cars.com/go/search/detail...8&aff=national
 
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what woud you rather have ....used 599 or new 430? saying the $'s the same
 
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what woud you rather have ....used 599 or new 430? saying the $'s the same
they are two totally different cars so it comes down to what you're going to do with the car and looks. really this is one cheap 599 though most will be in the 240's soon enough really the used newer 430's will be 60k cheaper.
 
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Those are some serious steals
 
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what woud you rather have ....used 599 or new 430? saying the $'s the same
599 but I won't touch it till it hits the $150s till then its not worth it.
 
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The days of being on the dealers so called list is over. Now they are kissing everybodys A** to buy a Ferrari
 
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Originally Posted by Finality
The F430 is due to be replaced ~September any smart buyer would know that. Couple that with the tanked economy and you see depressed prices across the range. Just take a look at Maserati GTs or 599s. 599s where going for 20% over back in August today they are 30% under MSRP (for a used one obviously).
I recently received an email attachment that supposedly is a pic of the new replacement for the F-430. Is this the F-450?
 
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I recently received an email attachment that supposedly is a pic of the new replacement for the F-430. Is this the F-450?
the 450 looks handsome!
 
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The 450 looks great looks like a new version of the GTO.
 
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Car and Drivers top 20 cars to wait for had the F500 out next winter
 
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Originally Posted by Airborne Ranger
Wow! even at dealer wholesale auctions those numbers seem really low.. but.. such are the times man
Has your Ferrari been on eBay? What unit are you/were you with?
 
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The days of being on the dealers so called list is over. Now they are kissing everybodys A** to buy a Ferrari
Really? Thats quite a shift!
 
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that ferrari reminds of an r8 actually
 
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