911 to Ferrari
#31
08-04-2012, 04:42 PM
Have guys had much success buying a new Ferrari every couple of years and selling the old one close to sticker price? It seems like you could drive a new 458 without the depreciation hit.
#32
08-05-2012, 07:28 PM
Maintenance really isn't that bad on the more modern Ferrari's (430 and later), outliers excluded. My 430 just needed the annual $900 fluid change (transmission, oil, brake, etc). Otherwise it's just wear and tear items such as brake pads, tires, and clutch which for people who only drive 3-5k miles per year, won't be replaced during a 1-2 year ownership cycle.
However if you get catastrophic failure, such a manifold destroying an engine, then it can get 5 figure costly. But those cases are pretty rare. That's why you have to do your due diligence in finding a good example & not try to buy the bottom of the barrel. Otherwise it's just a crap shoot.
However if you get catastrophic failure, such a manifold destroying an engine, then it can get 5 figure costly. But those cases are pretty rare. That's why you have to do your due diligence in finding a good example & not try to buy the bottom of the barrel. Otherwise it's just a crap shoot.
How would the manifold destroy the engine?
#33
08-05-2012, 08:16 PM
new f car owners flip their cars every 6-12 months without any depreciation as long as mileage is kept low (a few thousand). this is one of the reasons you dont see brand new f cars driven every week. they love this game because there is nothing like free ride and not having to worry about service and repairs.
typically, you'll find flippers having at least another exotic as keeper.
typically, you'll find flippers having at least another exotic as keeper.
#34
08-05-2012, 08:25 PM
Maintenance really isn't that bad on the more modern Ferrari's (430 and later), outliers excluded. My 430 just needed the annual $900 fluid change (transmission, oil, brake, etc). Otherwise it's just wear and tear items such as brake pads, tires, and clutch which for people who only drive 3-5k miles per year, won't be replaced during a 1-2 year ownership cycle.
However if you get catastrophic failure, such a manifold destroying an engine, then it can get 5 figure costly. But those cases are pretty rare. That's why you have to do your due diligence in finding a good example & not try to buy the bottom of the barrel. Otherwise it's just a crap shoot.
However if you get catastrophic failure, such a manifold destroying an engine, then it can get 5 figure costly. But those cases are pretty rare. That's why you have to do your due diligence in finding a good example & not try to buy the bottom of the barrel. Otherwise it's just a crap shoot.
My 05 Spider has been awesome.
#35
09-19-2012, 01:54 PM
#37
12-29-2012, 09:13 AM
I crossed over this year and I still miss the practical use of the Porsches, going to the gym, getting Starbuck's, picking up some groceries for the night and other everyday things. As far as the fun factor (Porsche vs. Ferrari) the Ferrari beats it, but just by a small margin, I have F1 in my Ferrari, so maybe the fun factor slide is only by a small margin, because with my Porsche's I've owed, they all were 6 speed, which makes any car much more fun to drive....
Ques: How is the 991 compared to the 997 compared to the 430.
IMO, Ferrari way more fun than Porsche; Porsche way more utilitarian than Ferrari. I have no idea how the 991 stacks up.
It all depends on how the car is going to be used...
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#38
12-30-2012, 11:38 PM
I've been gone a while...rvhpno80 looks like you have crossed back over to the p-car.
Ques: How is the 991 compared to the 997 compared to the 430.
IMO, Ferrari way more fun than Porsche; Porsche way more utilitarian than Ferrari. I have no idea how the 991 stacks up.
It all depends on how the car is going to be used...
A
Ques: How is the 991 compared to the 997 compared to the 430.
IMO, Ferrari way more fun than Porsche; Porsche way more utilitarian than Ferrari. I have no idea how the 991 stacks up.
It all depends on how the car is going to be used...
A
vs 430... engine note is still better. its a Ferrari!! 991 S PDK may be faster, but a Ferrari is just so much more of an event to drive, or even just to look at.
Porsche = Amazing... but its no Ferrari. my 2 cents. The running costs are more, but well worth it if you can afford it.
#39
12-31-2012, 08:11 PM
I love my TPC tuned, suspended 07 997tt, but that F12 ...... problem is I DD the 911, and I have no interest in an F-car that doesn't also DD. So, just buy it, write off the cost and drive the hell out of it ?
I only wonder what the damn annual vehicle tax would be in VA for an F12. Enough to keep me from buying one ...
I only wonder what the damn annual vehicle tax would be in VA for an F12. Enough to keep me from buying one ...
#40
01-01-2013, 01:40 PM
The look and sound are a major bonus, but you will be pissed about the power a 360 has. I saw one dynoed with exhaust and made 300 rwhp. That is slow as ****
#41
01-01-2013, 01:54 PM
that is what I was afraid of. although if it has a great feel of acceleration still and excellent drivability, might be an interesting change. I had a tiptronic cab which was really fast but not as exciting to drive as the pdk version. sounds like maybe the 430 spider is the way to go. will probably take another couple years for that to drop in price to be similar to the turbo cab price though.
#42
01-01-2013, 03:53 PM
that is what I was afraid of. although if it has a great feel of acceleration still and excellent drivability, might be an interesting change. I had a tiptronic cab which was really fast but not as exciting to drive as the pdk version. sounds like maybe the 430 spider is the way to go. will probably take another couple years for that to drop in price to be similar to the turbo cab price though.
#43
01-03-2013, 11:01 PM
Mondial convertible
I flipped to a Mondial convertible. I loved it except for the super low 1st gear. Other than that it was a fun car and much prettier than the 911.It was great as I had 2 little boys.
#44
01-04-2013, 04:17 AM
991 vs 997... 991 is bigger and steering feel is worse. engine note is fantastic, as is the more neutral handling. PDK reads your mind and is just perfect.
vs 430... engine note is still better. its a Ferrari!! 991 S PDK may be faster, but a Ferrari is just so much more of an event to drive, or even just to look at.
Porsche = Amazing... but its no Ferrari. my 2 cents. The running costs are more, but well worth it if you can afford it.
vs 430... engine note is still better. its a Ferrari!! 991 S PDK may be faster, but a Ferrari is just so much more of an event to drive, or even just to look at.
Porsche = Amazing... but its no Ferrari. my 2 cents. The running costs are more, but well worth it if you can afford it.
