458 Driver vs NYC Cop
#46
I would have told the cop that it was my car, apologized, asked shall I move it out of the way? and take the ticket (instead of the beating) like a man.
I am curious why NYC is concerned more with illegal parkers, but not so much with protecting it's citizens from crime?
Last time I went to Manhatten a lot of cars parked in the street to load/unload. It was annoying but we went around. Cops weren't issuing tickets or beatdowns then either.
I am curious why NYC is concerned more with illegal parkers, but not so much with protecting it's citizens from crime?
Last time I went to Manhatten a lot of cars parked in the street to load/unload. It was annoying but we went around. Cops weren't issuing tickets or beatdowns then either.
#47
He was prob. getting a ticket for the missing registration/ inspection/ front plate - all compulsory in NY. And perhaps for being parked there (I don't know).
NYPD usually doesn't give a **** about issuing tickets. There are Traffic Cops for that. Significant % of the city's budget. All municipalities count on that revenue to help along. See the traffic cameras going up all over the place in the nation?
Those guys you saw double-parked, they are getting tickets every day. It has become part of the cost of doing business. With large amounts of infractions outstanding on a fleet, the owner/ operator usually is able to settle with the city at the end of the year.
It's a shame. They are handing out tickets to the people who are out doing business and helping the economy. No business - no tax revenue. They just squeeze the pulp a little too much if you ask me.
I would been mad as well if I came out and found anyone, cop or not, hovering over my car.
Few people would have stuck their foot under the tire of a moving car like that guy did.
Again, NYPD isn't in the game of issuing tickets. I drive my 997.2 every day, no front tag, 20% tint all around 50% on the windshield - pass patrol cars and non-marked NYPD cars several times a day. They don't care. As long as you drive normally I gather.
Which really makes one wonder what that cop's problem was.
On nice cars, LEOs usually tolerate the no front plate. They are all over in the tri-state area. Hell, I even see soccer moms with front tag on SUVs. You may get pulled over. No problem. Get a ticket, pay it, not on your record. Move on.
NYPD usually doesn't give a **** about issuing tickets. There are Traffic Cops for that. Significant % of the city's budget. All municipalities count on that revenue to help along. See the traffic cameras going up all over the place in the nation?
Those guys you saw double-parked, they are getting tickets every day. It has become part of the cost of doing business. With large amounts of infractions outstanding on a fleet, the owner/ operator usually is able to settle with the city at the end of the year.
It's a shame. They are handing out tickets to the people who are out doing business and helping the economy. No business - no tax revenue. They just squeeze the pulp a little too much if you ask me.
I would been mad as well if I came out and found anyone, cop or not, hovering over my car.
Few people would have stuck their foot under the tire of a moving car like that guy did.
Again, NYPD isn't in the game of issuing tickets. I drive my 997.2 every day, no front tag, 20% tint all around 50% on the windshield - pass patrol cars and non-marked NYPD cars several times a day. They don't care. As long as you drive normally I gather.
Which really makes one wonder what that cop's problem was.
On nice cars, LEOs usually tolerate the no front plate. They are all over in the tri-state area. Hell, I even see soccer moms with front tag on SUVs. You may get pulled over. No problem. Get a ticket, pay it, not on your record. Move on.
Last edited by v21; 08-08-2012 at 01:38 PM.
#48
Now about this situation. It's clear that both parties were definitely in the wrong at some point throughout the whole event. What I do in cases like this is put myself in both party's shoes and see how I'd react.
OK, so if I'm the owner of the car, and I see an actual NYPD officer, NOT a parking cop, a REAL NYPD officer..issuing me a ticket, the LAST thought on my mind is that it's acceptable for me to just get in my car and leave. So in that regard, the owner is totally at fault. Then if that cop steps in front of my car...there is no way in hell i'm STILL going to try and leave! He's just an idiot, period. Regardless of whether they're right or wrong...when a police officer tells you to do something, you do it. Period.
Now, if I'm the cop. I can see people video-taping, and this rich ***** in a Ferrari is not displaying proper registration and illegally parked. I HAVE to do my job because other citizens are watching and I don't want them to think that I'm favoring the "rich" guy by letting him get away with a ticket I've probably given all of them at some point in their less expensive cars. Then when he tries to leave, my ego takes over and that's it, I do what I have to do stop him and make sure I lay down the long arm of the law. Plus, I get the satisfaction that I got to drag some rich punk out of his Ferrari and slam him into the ground, all in the name of the law.
Peronsally....I gotta side with the police officer on this one. The dumb kid's actions are the spark that started the fire.
Last edited by dubaudi; 08-08-2012 at 01:46 PM.
#49
Why do you think the cop decided to detain him until done with his ticket?
Yeah, if I oversaw traffic in NYC, I'd lower the hammer on the cab drivers first. They cause small amounts of delays all over the city all day long. It all adds up. You know how you get traffic jams and you get past a point and don't see what the problem was? It's because of the chain reaction coming from the first cars ahead braking/ slowing down. Effect is magnified over yards/ miles and in this case the city.
You noticed how they will stop anywhere for a potential fare? Even when they can pull up ahead and be out of the way. The cutting people off, swerving, honking BS etc. etc. etc.
Second, I'd take care of hiring better contractors to maintain the roads. Import them from Germany if I have to.
They do a sh.itty job as it is so they can come back and get some more work "fixing" the problem, turning potholes into bumps and vice-versa.
The crappy patch jobs, the steel plates (a buddy sells those to ConEd, makes a fortune), the lead time between prepping a street and when they actually lay down the asphalt.
Not to mention, the amount of traffic the city gets and the weather don't help.
But I have never ever seen roads built so poorly built to begin with, and then maintained, in an industrialized nation. You saw how portions of the BQE have been under constructions for decades? You need a SUV with marshmallow suspension to drive in Manhattan. You get out of NYC/ Brooklyn/ Queens and all of a sudden the roads are fine. Hey, what do you know?
Yeah, if I oversaw traffic in NYC, I'd lower the hammer on the cab drivers first. They cause small amounts of delays all over the city all day long. It all adds up. You know how you get traffic jams and you get past a point and don't see what the problem was? It's because of the chain reaction coming from the first cars ahead braking/ slowing down. Effect is magnified over yards/ miles and in this case the city.
You noticed how they will stop anywhere for a potential fare? Even when they can pull up ahead and be out of the way. The cutting people off, swerving, honking BS etc. etc. etc.
Second, I'd take care of hiring better contractors to maintain the roads. Import them from Germany if I have to.
They do a sh.itty job as it is so they can come back and get some more work "fixing" the problem, turning potholes into bumps and vice-versa.
The crappy patch jobs, the steel plates (a buddy sells those to ConEd, makes a fortune), the lead time between prepping a street and when they actually lay down the asphalt.
Not to mention, the amount of traffic the city gets and the weather don't help.
But I have never ever seen roads built so poorly built to begin with, and then maintained, in an industrialized nation. You saw how portions of the BQE have been under constructions for decades? You need a SUV with marshmallow suspension to drive in Manhattan. You get out of NYC/ Brooklyn/ Queens and all of a sudden the roads are fine. Hey, what do you know?
Last edited by v21; 08-08-2012 at 02:11 PM.
#50
I think it did move very slightly at ~27-28 second mark (just before this cop raged). If the cop had his foot already sitting just infront of the tire (very stupid to do that IMO regardless of any reasons), his foot should've been squeezed.
I don't know NYC that well to comment on street parkings and all but I would never "confront" cops regardless of how unfair the ticket may be. That's what the court is for. I am curious what words were exchanged between the two. Interesting.
I don't know NYC that well to comment on street parkings and all but I would never "confront" cops regardless of how unfair the ticket may be. That's what the court is for. I am curious what words were exchanged between the two. Interesting.
#51
its required, by NYS law, bottom line he should have taken his ticket and keep it moving, what a jerk, I dont understand you drive a 260k plus Ferrari, take the ticket and keep it moving....
#52
I would have told the cop that it was my car, apologized, asked shall I move it out of the way? and take the ticket (instead of the beating) like a man.
I am curious why NYC is concerned more with illegal parkers, but not so much with protecting it's citizens from crime?
Last time I went to Manhatten a lot of cars parked in the street to load/unload. It was annoying but we went around. Cops weren't issuing tickets or beatdowns then either.
I am curious why NYC is concerned more with illegal parkers, but not so much with protecting it's citizens from crime?
Last time I went to Manhatten a lot of cars parked in the street to load/unload. It was annoying but we went around. Cops weren't issuing tickets or beatdowns then either.
#53
So the cop, knowing he could be ran over, thinks its a better idea to put the power card on and stand infront of a 3000pd vehicle which could kill him, instead of just moving aside and letting the asshat do what he wants and then letting justice deal with him? Unless laws are different from where I am from, the driver does not have any obligation to stay on the scene, unless its an accident, the ticket would then be mailed. Yes he should have just taken the ticket, but in the end two wrongs dont make a right 100 times over
#56
Whether his foot was run over or not, what the PO did was retaliate. Now, were this the 70's or 80's before there were cellphone cameras and the NYPD had a little more benefit of doubt on how they handled stuff, the PO might have gotten away w/this outburst. Charges dropped on both sides. Not now. If the driver were under arrest, the PO should have informed him of this and not allowed him to enter his car. The PO is most likely on restricted duty pending departmental hearing and dismissal. The reel will be used in the academy on what "not to do" when writing a parking summons. Guy I feel bad for his partner who now may get jammed up as well because this guy lost his sh*t on a civilian.
#57
F that cop, that whole scene was a total hoax! First off the driver WAS a dickbag, he should have asked if there was a problem and if he can move his car.
BUT the officer just saw someone young driving that car and decided to play it out. His foot did NOT get run over, and even if it did with those shoes that NYPD wear he would most certainly NOT be limping and in agonizing pain as he was at the end of the video. I ran my buddies foot over one night with a mid-sized SUV and he had sneakers on and he was in pain for all of 40 seconds and walked away TOTALLY FINE.
I feel the cop should have stepped back, OR in front and order the driver to stop if there was an issue, he should certainly NOT have leaned into the car, by the tires, while the driver was clearly slowly starting out. If he didn't want him to move he should have stated it, NOT let it play out.
I think both were total *******s and both probably deserved what happened in a sense of karma, however I see the NYPD loosing this one and I hope that cop gets discharged or something. Don't need yet another power hungry cop thinking he owns the streets and everyone in them.
BUT the officer just saw someone young driving that car and decided to play it out. His foot did NOT get run over, and even if it did with those shoes that NYPD wear he would most certainly NOT be limping and in agonizing pain as he was at the end of the video. I ran my buddies foot over one night with a mid-sized SUV and he had sneakers on and he was in pain for all of 40 seconds and walked away TOTALLY FINE.
I feel the cop should have stepped back, OR in front and order the driver to stop if there was an issue, he should certainly NOT have leaned into the car, by the tires, while the driver was clearly slowly starting out. If he didn't want him to move he should have stated it, NOT let it play out.
I think both were total *******s and both probably deserved what happened in a sense of karma, however I see the NYPD loosing this one and I hope that cop gets discharged or something. Don't need yet another power hungry cop thinking he owns the streets and everyone in them.