Is GT3 just out of control hard to handle?
#16
10-25-2007, 11:27 AM
original poster.... are you 17?
ha..... funny reading your words.
if you want the gt3 or rs... step to it, respect it, spend the money for track instruction and car control.. you'll be fine.
it is a very refined machine on the track or in the canyon...
the way you speak about it though, makes me a bit nervous for your wife and insurance company.....
ha..... funny reading your words.
if you want the gt3 or rs... step to it, respect it, spend the money for track instruction and car control.. you'll be fine.
it is a very refined machine on the track or in the canyon...
the way you speak about it though, makes me a bit nervous for your wife and insurance company.....
#17
10-25-2007, 11:38 AM
i checked that one out as well but you can easily get a better deal from another dealer and have it shipped. GT3 Vs. Turbo, that's a tough decision but personally i would always recommend RWD over AWD. it's a purer experience. drive it and decide.
now, if this was GT3RS Vs. Turbo then i would definately say RS!
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10-25-2007, 12:31 PM
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original poster.... are you 17?
ha..... funny reading your words.
if you want the gt3 or rs... step to it, respect it, spend the money for track instruction and car control.. you'll be fine.
it is a very refined machine on the track or in the canyon...
the way you speak about it though, makes me a bit nervous for your wife and insurance company.....
ha..... funny reading your words.
if you want the gt3 or rs... step to it, respect it, spend the money for track instruction and car control.. you'll be fine.
it is a very refined machine on the track or in the canyon...
the way you speak about it though, makes me a bit nervous for your wife and insurance company.....
Your an idiot by the way go drive your STI or whatever you have and leave my thread alone.
thanks everyone else for your help!
#19
10-25-2007, 02:54 PM
With ~6k miles and ~10 track weekends with my 996GT3, I would say this car is very predictable as long as you play it by it's rules. You can hold the car in long power slides and rotate it with brakes with ease as long as your inputs are firm and smooth.
But be aware, any jerky input, such as stomping on the brakes/gas or letting off the gas/brakes abruptly or jerky steering will upset the car and she will bite you back, HARD!
The 997 is a better platform due to the PSM and TC so if that's what you're looking for, I'd say go for it!
But be aware, any jerky input, such as stomping on the brakes/gas or letting off the gas/brakes abruptly or jerky steering will upset the car and she will bite you back, HARD!
The 997 is a better platform due to the PSM and TC so if that's what you're looking for, I'd say go for it!
Last edited by Juha; 10-25-2007 at 02:57 PM.
#20
10-25-2007, 03:44 PM
With ~6k miles and ~10 track weekends with my 996GT3, I would say this car is very predictable as long as you play it by it's rules. You can hold the car in long power slides and rotate it with brakes with ease as long as your inputs are firm and smooth.
But be aware, any jerky input, such as stomping on the brakes/gas or letting off the gas/brakes abruptly or jerky steering will upset the car and she will bite you back, HARD!
The 997 is a better platform due to the PSM and TC so if that's what you're looking for, I'd say go for it!
But be aware, any jerky input, such as stomping on the brakes/gas or letting off the gas/brakes abruptly or jerky steering will upset the car and she will bite you back, HARD!
The 997 is a better platform due to the PSM and TC so if that's what you're looking for, I'd say go for it!
#22
10-25-2007, 09:50 PM
The turbo can be pretty easily adjusted to a more track oriented config with little sacrifice of street comfort. Keep in mind those Gt3's will have little room for power mods in the future, whereas the TT can grow a long ways. Being capped at last years' HP bar is part of the reason I sold my GT3 and kept the TT. Check out my sig video if you want to see how a TT can run with Gt3's and Gt2's on the track
#26
10-26-2007, 06:33 PM
I know I have some friends I would NEVER let drive my GT3.
And this "I know my limits" talk is all BS. The limit is a very thin line drawn on the water. It changes all the time, car's are different, tires are different, roads are different, weather is different...
And It's not about the limits, it's about judgement; you just have to know when and where you can afford to loose it and go over the limit.
Bad judgement is when you pass your limits in a situation that leads to something worse than just spinning your car around or running of the road.
I have friends that sometimes use bad judgement and most of these times they have gotten away with it just because they were not in a car such as the 996GT3...
I'm not saying one shouldn't try to find the limits or pass them, hell I do it all the time!! I'm just saying use your judgement on when and where to do it!!
Last edited by Juha; 10-26-2007 at 06:41 PM.
#27
10-26-2007, 06:41 PM
Exactly! It all depends on what is between the seat and the steering wheel!
I know I have some friends I would NEVER let drive my GT3.
And this "I know my limits" talk is all BS. The limit is a very thin line drawn on the water. It changes all the time, car's are different, tires are different, roads are different, weather is different...
And It's not about the limits, it's about judgement; you just have to know when and where you can afford to loose it and go over the limit and that's where and how you learn your limits.
Bad judgement is when you pass your limits in a situation that leads to something worse than just spinning your car around or running of the road.
I have friends that sometimes use bad judgement and most of these times they have gotten away with it just because they were not in a car such as the 996GT3...
I'm not saying one shouldn't try to find the limits, hell I do it all the time!! I'm just saying use your judgement on when and where to do it!!
I know I have some friends I would NEVER let drive my GT3.
And this "I know my limits" talk is all BS. The limit is a very thin line drawn on the water. It changes all the time, car's are different, tires are different, roads are different, weather is different...
And It's not about the limits, it's about judgement; you just have to know when and where you can afford to loose it and go over the limit and that's where and how you learn your limits.
Bad judgement is when you pass your limits in a situation that leads to something worse than just spinning your car around or running of the road.
I have friends that sometimes use bad judgement and most of these times they have gotten away with it just because they were not in a car such as the 996GT3...
I'm not saying one shouldn't try to find the limits, hell I do it all the time!! I'm just saying use your judgement on when and where to do it!!
#28
10-27-2007, 07:53 AM
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I have to admit, it sounds like the OP has a lot of maturing before he is ready for any high performance vehicle.
#29
10-27-2007, 09:30 AM
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Thanks again for everyones response. I was given the choice to give up my Turbo spot for a 08 GT3 spot. I will go talk to the master tech at the dealer and see what he thinks the Turbo can do after some suspension mods etc. Im not a track junkie "yet" but as soon as Eagle Canyon opens 30 minutes from here... my wife may not see me to much ahhaha
Ill keep everyone posted.
thanks again
Ill keep everyone posted.
thanks again
#30
10-28-2007, 04:12 AM
So im really seriouse about getting a GT3 or GT3RS and just saying screw the Turbo. Even after owning the turbo I love the ride and feel of my C2S and almost enjoyed driving it more than the Turbo...
Is the GT3 a totaly diffrent animal? I take turns fast as hell and play around with my back end allot.
Is it true GT3 do not have traction control? Is this a good idea or should I stay in a comfort zone and stick with the Turbo in May?
Is the GT3 a totaly diffrent animal? I take turns fast as hell and play around with my back end allot.
Is it true GT3 do not have traction control? Is this a good idea or should I stay in a comfort zone and stick with the Turbo in May?
I have driven the RS and the car is so stable and easy to handle at the limit. You know what's going on all the time. If you don't like the turbo or couldn't explored its limit, I suggest you go for the 3 or RS. Those GT's aren't hard to control like people thoughts.