GT3 RS at the Bahrain International Circuit (F1)
#16
Originally posted by ElusiveC4
i would have to disagree.. you put him (MS) in one of the other cars besides ferrari and his win totals/poles would be a different story.
i would have to disagree.. you put him (MS) in one of the other cars besides ferrari and his win totals/poles would be a different story.
#17
yea i can agree with that..those are very good points. I guess I see it more in a sense like how Phil Jackson has somehow managed to always come in right when a NBA team is on the cusp of greatness and is able to win championships and people call him a coaching God. I believe that he does possess very good coaching skills but it also helps when you have the best players on the planet on your team. In the end, I guess im just jaded about the current state of F1 where its ferrari 1-2 every race and the only good battles are those for 4th-8th place
#18
Hey, I won't ever argue that Michael seems to be in the right place at the right time...all the time. Sometimes luck has a lot to do with success. We've all heard it before...I'd rather be lucky than good. Well it seems that Michael is both lucky and good.
And it can change. Look at BAR and Jenson Button. All of a sudden, they seem to have it together. Ferrari will falter, and there will be a team waiting in the wings to step in. It seems that the problem in F1 right now, besides Michael's brilliance is that a very small advantage in the car can turn into dominance on the track. With limited passing opportunities, the car and driver combination that can run fast, consistant laps will win. You cannot overdrive the car to victory the way some drivers used to.
And it can change. Look at BAR and Jenson Button. All of a sudden, they seem to have it together. Ferrari will falter, and there will be a team waiting in the wings to step in. It seems that the problem in F1 right now, besides Michael's brilliance is that a very small advantage in the car can turn into dominance on the track. With limited passing opportunities, the car and driver combination that can run fast, consistant laps will win. You cannot overdrive the car to victory the way some drivers used to.
Last edited by Larry Herman; 06-05-2004 at 09:25 PM.
#20
Schumacher was appointed to motorsports by God himself. He is simply on another plane from any other driver.
Remember boys, it wasn't until last 2-3 seasons that Ferrari engineered superior cars. In fact, if anything, being part of Ferrari was a handicap.
Remember boys, it wasn't until last 2-3 seasons that Ferrari engineered superior cars. In fact, if anything, being part of Ferrari was a handicap.
#21
Originally posted by Hamann7
Schumacher was appointed to motorsports by God himself. He is simply on another plane from any other driver.
Remember boys, it wasn't until last 2-3 seasons that Ferrari engineered superior cars. In fact, if anything, being part of Ferrari was a handicap.
Schumacher was appointed to motorsports by God himself. He is simply on another plane from any other driver.
Remember boys, it wasn't until last 2-3 seasons that Ferrari engineered superior cars. In fact, if anything, being part of Ferrari was a handicap.
#22
Larry,
You are WRONG---SENNA has more poles (65) than any one else include Heir Schumacher (59 or 60). Schumi has been in F1 since 1991 (13-14 years) and has never really had a crappy car on the other hand Senna did it in (9 years, 3 races) and raced for such teams as Toleman (He finished second at Monaco becuase they stopped the race). If you want to see the best driver ever in a less powerful car beat the crap out of everyone watch the 1993 European Grand Prix where Senna lapped the entire field in a McLaren with less powerful Ford engines (Schumi's Benneton was the Ford factory team, before Bennetton switched to Renault and then won the championship)...Look Schumi is the best of His time but that's it...It's still Senna, Clark & Fangio at the top. Where would Schumi be with out Ross Brawn & Rory Byrne is the better question...Ross, Rory & Jean Todt put Ferrari back on the map! Just my $.50
You are WRONG---SENNA has more poles (65) than any one else include Heir Schumacher (59 or 60). Schumi has been in F1 since 1991 (13-14 years) and has never really had a crappy car on the other hand Senna did it in (9 years, 3 races) and raced for such teams as Toleman (He finished second at Monaco becuase they stopped the race). If you want to see the best driver ever in a less powerful car beat the crap out of everyone watch the 1993 European Grand Prix where Senna lapped the entire field in a McLaren with less powerful Ford engines (Schumi's Benneton was the Ford factory team, before Bennetton switched to Renault and then won the championship)...Look Schumi is the best of His time but that's it...It's still Senna, Clark & Fangio at the top. Where would Schumi be with out Ross Brawn & Rory Byrne is the better question...Ross, Rory & Jean Todt put Ferrari back on the map! Just my $.50
#23
Senna expend more time in the top teams with the best cars.
Schumacher never got a chance to get in the top teams (never). He drove slower cars. He raised Ferrari to the level it's today.
When young Schumacher and mature Senna were driving together, Senna had a better car, and he was loosing. From the cockpit you could see Senna horrible steering manners (even with active steering), while Schumacher was smooth.
Today's Schumacher with latest Senna won't be a match. Schumacher is a machine (no errors). Senna was a push and explore the limits driver, with consistent mistakes in every race. Look at those old races and watch Senna lines, braking points, etc.
Anyway Senna was a great driver. Schumacher is a living legend, ask everybody else outside US.
Schumacher never got a chance to get in the top teams (never). He drove slower cars. He raised Ferrari to the level it's today.
When young Schumacher and mature Senna were driving together, Senna had a better car, and he was loosing. From the cockpit you could see Senna horrible steering manners (even with active steering), while Schumacher was smooth.
Today's Schumacher with latest Senna won't be a match. Schumacher is a machine (no errors). Senna was a push and explore the limits driver, with consistent mistakes in every race. Look at those old races and watch Senna lines, braking points, etc.
Anyway Senna was a great driver. Schumacher is a living legend, ask everybody else outside US.
#27
#29
Falgo,
Awesome pictures...can you give us some insight as to what your impressions of the car are...what were your lap times compared to other cars? Again AWESOME!!!
NJ-GT,
I almost didn't get your humor...because if you're being serious then you obviously have no idea what you're talking about if you watch the 1993 F1 season you would notice that Senna won 5 races and Schumi won only one with the more powerful Ford engines...your comments are received as comical!! Thanks for making me laugh tonight, I needed it...
Awesome pictures...can you give us some insight as to what your impressions of the car are...what were your lap times compared to other cars? Again AWESOME!!!
NJ-GT,
I almost didn't get your humor...because if you're being serious then you obviously have no idea what you're talking about if you watch the 1993 F1 season you would notice that Senna won 5 races and Schumi won only one with the more powerful Ford engines...your comments are received as comical!! Thanks for making me laugh tonight, I needed it...
Last edited by MJSpeed; 06-09-2004 at 01:31 PM.