Is the GT3 for me?
#31
Hmmm...I always wonder about that too...
M3's great DD and GT3 is a great weekend or track car. The lack of body roll and the exhaust sound of high rev NA engine is good enough to keep both.
M3's great DD and GT3 is a great weekend or track car. The lack of body roll and the exhaust sound of high rev NA engine is good enough to keep both.
#32
Tim,
Do you plan on tracking the car? If not, I personally wouldn't get the GT3. Don't get me wrong, the GT3 is an unbelievable car, but you wouldn't really be close to the limits on the street and, IMHO, could not really appreciate the car. For a sunny, weekender car, I would get the Turbo.
Do you plan on tracking the car? If not, I personally wouldn't get the GT3. Don't get me wrong, the GT3 is an unbelievable car, but you wouldn't really be close to the limits on the street and, IMHO, could not really appreciate the car. For a sunny, weekender car, I would get the Turbo.
I would track the car - but honestly, that might be once or twice a year. 90% of the driving would be spirited driving on twisty roads.
#34
I'd say enjoy your M3 fully, make yourself happy, and get that GT3!
BTW, I sold my Civic...
#35
yep, that's mine
And I love having both cars. Both the M3 and GT3 are fantastic cars. I haven't seen many red GT3's, so if you see one in the SF bay area, it is most likely me. I need to follow advice from MTK and paint some blacks in there, may be flat black wheels with red stripe on the rim and carbon fiber side mirrors.
#36
Actually I thought about that too with my M3. After I got my GT3, my priority has changed. My M3 really has become a DD now. I used to have a Honda Civic hatchback as daily beater but then I thought, why treat myself this way when I have 3 other great cars in my garage to enjoy everyday? Once the E90 & E92 M3s are out, the E46 M3s may not be as desirable compare to its newer brothers. Forgive me but i doubt any E46 M3s are collectables unless it's un-modified with extra low miles (almost new). The real collectable E46 M3 to me would be the true Euro-spec CSL, not the U.S. version.
I'd say enjoy your M3 fully, make yourself happy, and get that GT3!
BTW, I sold my Civic...
I'd say enjoy your M3 fully, make yourself happy, and get that GT3!
BTW, I sold my Civic...
#37
Lots of good responses in this thread.
The notion of agressive driving puzzles me, it's contrary to everything you learn in advanced driving schools. The faster you go, the smoother you need to be. Certain cars will tolerate jerky inputs to a certain extent, others will bite back. Maybe it's just semantics.
I've had an M3 and I frankly hated it. Over-rated in many ways, gearbox, engine, heavy and feels like it. Was really happy to get rid of it.
The GT3 is my 3rd 911 in 3 years and the first where I am starting to see glimpses of light at the end of the rear engine tunnel. The notion that 911s will bite back is largely exagerated in my opinion. Unless you make basic mistakes, all you'll get until you adapt your driving style is massive understeer. It's very unpleasant, especially if you are used to the sharp turn in and playful tail of an M3. If you apply the same recipe on a GT3, you will regret your purchase. At first.
Of my three 911s, the GT3 is the one that exhibits the least the rear engine traits that can be so frustrating, but it's also perhaps me humbly trying to adapt. However, when you start to adapt your lines, force yourself to trailbrake and lean on the rear at turn out, then you may started seeing flashes that can explain why some people are so hooked to 911s.
The notion of agressive driving puzzles me, it's contrary to everything you learn in advanced driving schools. The faster you go, the smoother you need to be. Certain cars will tolerate jerky inputs to a certain extent, others will bite back. Maybe it's just semantics.
I've had an M3 and I frankly hated it. Over-rated in many ways, gearbox, engine, heavy and feels like it. Was really happy to get rid of it.
The GT3 is my 3rd 911 in 3 years and the first where I am starting to see glimpses of light at the end of the rear engine tunnel. The notion that 911s will bite back is largely exagerated in my opinion. Unless you make basic mistakes, all you'll get until you adapt your driving style is massive understeer. It's very unpleasant, especially if you are used to the sharp turn in and playful tail of an M3. If you apply the same recipe on a GT3, you will regret your purchase. At first.
Of my three 911s, the GT3 is the one that exhibits the least the rear engine traits that can be so frustrating, but it's also perhaps me humbly trying to adapt. However, when you start to adapt your lines, force yourself to trailbrake and lean on the rear at turn out, then you may started seeing flashes that can explain why some people are so hooked to 911s.
#39
I had BMW's most of my life with the 1st being a '73 2002, great car (I know I'm dating myself here) and the last was a '85 535i, also a great car ... the 3 series inbetween ... worthless especially on a damp road. So I'm not really qualified to compare the newer M cars.
I can tell you I loved my '07 GT3 ... absolutely the hottest car I've ever driven ... street or track. I can't quite agree with mooty that it was boring under 7k ... by the higher the revs the car just always seemed to say give me more. My dream right now is, if and when my ship comes in there maybe a GT3 Cup in my future
I can tell you I loved my '07 GT3 ... absolutely the hottest car I've ever driven ... street or track. I can't quite agree with mooty that it was boring under 7k ... by the higher the revs the car just always seemed to say give me more. My dream right now is, if and when my ship comes in there maybe a GT3 Cup in my future
#41
As newcomer to the forum and also new GT3 owner found this entire posting very informative. Mooty's feedback in particular. Anyone who has owned that many GT3's and put that kind of serious mileage on the car, must have learned a thing or two about the subject at hand. Thanks for the education.
#42
Are you fu'cin kidding me? Wow......