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CGT on Sunday in Crystal Cove (NB). Was it you?

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Old 04-23-2008 | 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by robertp
Like I said, only some drivers can get there car to approach its limits. What should I do, let him win becaus on paper he should? If I posted a race against a stock VW, would that be novel or predictable?
Then it's not really a "race" then is it? And nobody really "wins." That's why you should take it with a grain of salt. Respect the car, not the driver. You "racing" a CGT is as novel as you "racing" a VW. How hard is it to floor a car and point it straight? The only limit that you wll be pushing is the speed limit, no real skills required other than a lead foot.
 
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Old 04-23-2008 | 03:11 PM
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I give up!

Seems Robert will never get it. He still replies back with " I just love to race. I will race any car, any time so long as it is safe. Any takers? "

Now I can understand why I've run into many folks in SoCal who know you and have personally told me they no longer want you on their drives and try to stay away from you.

Nuff said and have fun looking for races!
 
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Old 04-23-2008 | 03:32 PM
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The real debate is road racing on a track vs. drag racing in a straight line. Being that this is a GT2/GT3/GT subforum I can see why the crowd is swaying the way it is, and I agree with you in that sense; however, both take skill, neither is holding your foot on a pedal. If you line up a 996tt vs a CGT to run a straight 1/4 mile and the CGT driver has a bad start, misses 2nd or whatever and the 996tt takes the race, it doesnt mean the 996tt is a faster car, but bottom line he won, plain and simple. Same goes to any two vehicles. Drag racing takes skill and knowing your vehicle just like racing on a track does. If you line up on the expressway in the faster car and your in the wrong gear, not in your powerband, and the other car takes off on you, then your beat.
 
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Old 04-23-2008 | 03:37 PM
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Robert,

I don't understand why it is so important for you to prove the point that you "killed" the CGT. Bottom line is I don't think anyone here really beleives you, and you really are just digging a larger hole for yourself.

I'd place you in the category of "legend in your own mind."
 
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Old 04-23-2008 | 03:37 PM
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Originally Posted by robertp
I just love to race. I will race any car, any time so long as it is safe. Any takers? Come on by and we can have some fun.

My car is flashed and I only run VP MS 109 octane gas. Should be around 510 to 520HP.
OK, find a straight smooth road in southern Cal where we can go 150+ legally and I'll race you in a CGT or Ruf Turbo R from a rolling start. I'll be happy to share in the rental expenses if any. Please PM details to limit exposure.
 

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If you had posted this thread in the section above this one(996TT) things might have been different. People on in the GT section actually knows something about these cars and will have a hard time accepting your claims against the CGT.
 
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Old 04-23-2008 | 04:34 PM
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Originally Posted by 9Eleven
Then it's not really a "race" then is it? And nobody really "wins." That's why you should take it with a grain of salt. Respect the car, not the driver. You "racing" a CGT is as novel as you "racing" a VW. How hard is it to floor a car and point it straight? The only limit that you wll be pushing is the speed limit, no real skills required other than a lead foot.
OK, drag racing is not a skill. Clutch modulation is not a skill. Shifting is not a skill. Knowing when to shift is not a skill. This is why John Force makes over $30 million a wyar driving in a stright line because anyone can do it.
 
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Old 04-23-2008 | 04:36 PM
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Originally Posted by fredttx50
I give up!

Seems Robert will never get it. He still replies back with " I just love to race. I will race any car, any time so long as it is safe. Any takers? "

Now I can understand why I've run into many folks in SoCal who know you and have personally told me they no longer want you on their drives and try to stay away from you.

Nuff said and have fun looking for races!
I have pleanty of guys who want to run every weekend. Are you talking about no car Elim? All of the roads a public last time I looked....
 
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Old 04-23-2008 | 04:39 PM
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Originally Posted by vincentdds
If you had posted this thread in the section above this one(996TT) things might have been different. People on in the GT section actually knows something about these cars and will have a hard time accepting your claims against the CGT.
I posted the video (unedited). Did you see the video? I could have took out some parts, but I do not edit videos. I play them as they are created.
 
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Old 04-23-2008 | 04:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Redlinerobert
Robert,

I don't understand why it is so important for you to prove the point that you "killed" the CGT. Bottom line is I don't think anyone here really beleives you, and you really are just digging a larger hole for yourself.

I'd place you in the category of "legend in your own mind."
Come on Robert (bro) I never said I killed anything. I simply said I pulled the (in third gear) CGT in this video. I never said my car is faster than all CGT's.
 
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Old 04-23-2008 | 04:43 PM
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Originally Posted by 9Eleven
Then it's not really a "race" then is it? And nobody really "wins." That's why you should take it with a grain of salt. Respect the car, not the driver. You "racing" a CGT is as novel as you "racing" a VW. How hard is it to floor a car and point it straight? The only limit that you wll be pushing is the speed limit, no real skills required other than a lead foot.
I should have posted "look at the nimrod who can't drive".
 
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Funny!

This thread is becoming .

The CGT is incomparable to the Turbo. I have a GT700 and it can beat a CGT, however not by much. The power-to-weight ratio in that car is fantastic.

Anyway, the point is, Nick didn't really 'race' you; at least according to that video. To do a real race, go to a highway with hardly any traffic and do at least 3 runs of ~40-150mph! That tests both torque & HP in the car and involves shifting. By the time you get to 150mph, my bet is that the CGT will be at least 4-5 carlengths ahead of you. Plus you have a Cabriolet! That is heavy and you don't have too many (power) mods.

And just a suggestion, the 3 honk rule generally is that each honk is at least ONE SECOND. Not 3 honks in 1 second! It sounded like you were telling him to 'watch out' or 'get outta the way'! LOLOL.

Anyway, it just looked like good 'ol fun..
 
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Not trying to be an a-hole, but what did you race professionally? Just curious.
 
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Old 04-23-2008 | 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted by robertp
OK, drag racing is not a skill. Clutch modulation is not a skill. Shifting is not a skill. Knowing when to shift is not a skill. This is why John Force makes over $30 million a wyar driving in a stright line because anyone can do it.
You didn't drag race, you were both rolling at 50 miles an hour or more. Your 60 to 130 time is 10.2. That pretty much sums it up. A John Force reference to a rolling street race? Man, you're really reaching, I'm done.
 


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