http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GaqmxE_fmj0&feature=related



posted it on Fchat and needless to say got some serious flak.....

 

that was a nice little video. cant see why you would get any flak posting it on a ferrari forum though.
to me atleast it clearly shows that the GT3 hasnt enough to beat a scuderia on a track or in a race situation as they stand right there. they could have went round there all day and the positions would never have changed. the GT3 was out braking it but hasnt got enough oomph on the straights to ever hope to overtake or keep hold if in front, all it can hope is to close up at twisties or try to block off.
were the GT3 to have lead off the scuderia would have gotten past at some point by being able to force the issue on a straight and take the line into a corner and close out.
both great cars and nice to see them being used as intended. the GT3 has my heart though none the less

 

cool vid, doesnt really prove anything though. I would love to see a Top Gear comparison like they did with the stradale and the 996 GT3 RS. For those of you who havent seen it heres the link. And my guess is there would be a similar outcome

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-CnImIihIWs[/media]

 

They both look like inexperienced drivers to me. I say that because it appears that they are trying to drive the dry line, which is not the fastest way around a wet track. To make matters worse, from the sound of the GT3 exhaust note, it appears that the driver is almost always in a gear too high (lower RPM) for that particular part of the track. The GT3 shines in the higher RPM range and every attempt to keep it there should be made at all times on the track. One final note, yes the GT3 brakes amazingly well, but it is the accelerator on any car that needs to be depressed most of the time to get/stay in front. I would be happy with either one of these awesome track weapons, however I am biased because I have the GT3. This is just MY two cents, so take it for what its worth, but maybe one of our Pro drivers or instructors can provide you with better advice. Thanks for sharing.

 

i agree indeed, watch how much the GT3 is twitching and the corrections made. its hardly smooth at times which doesnt suggest a good driver.
the straight line gap pulled by the scuderia each and every time, while it could certainly be effected greatly by having the GT3 in the wrong gear (i didnt have sound when i watched sadly) still leaves me thinking it would be a tall order to pass without an error and a tough job to keep behind requiring alot of positioning early in the racing lines to fend off though it would be a real struggle to put even a cigarette paper between them. id jump on either of these in a heartbeat but if it was my own money, i would be taking away the german. the video does neither an injustice imho.

it would be great if an experienced racer on here would give some commentary. i for one would love to read it. the length and filming seems like it would make it ideal.

 

It doesn't prove anything. Both are horrible track drivers.

 

well it proves that in the wet with less than great track drivers in both a GT3 cant get past a scuderia lol

the top gear lap times for the GT3 and the regular F430 were 1.27.2 and 1.22.9 respectively. GT3RS and F360 CS were both the same at 1.22.3 all driven by the stig himself
they havent had a scuderia on unless i missed that episode

i guess it shows that times arent everything. a 430 is miles better IMHO than a 360 even in CS form and i would still take a GT3 over either and its the slowest.

 

Really?

I'll take the Scuderia hands down.

 

yes really,
theres something about the gt3 that just gets me going. the 430s are beautiful in hardtop form but all that show that comes with ferrari and lambo whether one wants it or not puts me off.
at this level though theres no bad car, just different ones.

i actually prefer the 996 gt3 over the 997. i know its a better car but the rawness of the 996 just gets me too. theres a clubsport gt3 on the horizon for me i feel shortly

 

I white knuckled my keyboard just watching that video. Two horrible track drivers in even worse conditions driving faster than they should be allowed is a recipe for a very expensive accident in my opinion.

 

Where can I get a pink sweater like that

 

Nice video.The guy that's filming always looks better than the guy being filmed.

 

He wasnt really trying to pass. There is almost 500k worth of cars there and trying to pass under braking in wet conditions at a DE is stupid at best. The video doesnt prove anything at all other than the two guys were out to have fun. The guy in the GT3 had no sense of urgency or body language that he was trying to pass.

We all know the RS isnt much faster than the regular GT3 so the 5 seconds between the GT3 and RS has to be a byproduct of the track conditions. High 1:20's in a car like the GT3 means the track was likely wet or he made a serious mistake. And they dont differentiate between which (996 or 997) GT3 it is, and the 996 RS is as good as the 360 CS.

Personally I think the stig is overated if Lewis Hamilton can get within a second of him on a completely wet track, which can take 5-10 or more seconds off of your dry time. Not to mention the stig has changed over the years so it's not always the same person driving.

A 996 GT3 is more comparable to a 360 CS, especially the 996 GT3 RS (euro). But a 430 is not miles ahead of a GT3 in anything.

 

Maybe they were just having a bit of fun. No prizes for being fastest on a track day. No prizes for binning it. Most times have to drive it home as well and that tends to focus the mind. Video is amusing and probably never intended to prove anything.

Price of Scud means I own a 997 GT3 RS and as Joda would say " Very happy amd I with it"

 

I agree, some people DE for fun, and trying to make a comparison of the capability of the cars based on that is worthless.