Wow GT3 with PDK
#1
#3
PDK in a GT3 = MEH
The ONLY consolation is that the new cup cars come with sequentials. But I still dont like it, I'll take the stick. I still think it's a sellout, they are making a car the mag writers can drive.
I'd bet money this GT3 weighs well over 3300 lbs actual weight since the current ones weigh mid-low 3200's. That PDK is going to add some weight, SIGNIFICANT weight.
6 speed manual ftw.
The ONLY consolation is that the new cup cars come with sequentials. But I still dont like it, I'll take the stick. I still think it's a sellout, they are making a car the mag writers can drive.
I'd bet money this GT3 weighs well over 3300 lbs actual weight since the current ones weigh mid-low 3200's. That PDK is going to add some weight, SIGNIFICANT weight.
6 speed manual ftw.
#6
Are you talking the 996, 977 or both GT3 varients ? I have a leak on my '04. I have only a few drops in the garage after sporatic use. With consistent use, it seems to go away. I have had mine replaced twice, the last time being last fall. Even though I got it done right before warranty expiration, I still have 18 mos. of warranty on the rms. Not sure I am going to bother getting it done again or not.
#7
Rockitman,
May be worth it, since they have another revision to the latest seal. Since, looks like you are enjoying and will keep the car awhile.
May be worth it, since they have another revision to the latest seal. Since, looks like you are enjoying and will keep the car awhile.
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#10
PDK in a GT3 = MEH
The ONLY consolation is that the new cup cars come with sequentials. But I still dont like it, I'll take the stick. I still think it's a sellout, they are making a car the mag writers can drive.
I'd bet money this GT3 weighs well over 3300 lbs actual weight since the current ones weigh mid-low 3200's. That PDK is going to add some weight, SIGNIFICANT weight.
6 speed manual ftw.
The ONLY consolation is that the new cup cars come with sequentials. But I still dont like it, I'll take the stick. I still think it's a sellout, they are making a car the mag writers can drive.
I'd bet money this GT3 weighs well over 3300 lbs actual weight since the current ones weigh mid-low 3200's. That PDK is going to add some weight, SIGNIFICANT weight.
6 speed manual ftw.
They should have left the damn GT3's alone, or added direct injection and THAT's IT!
#12
i'm confused... will the new GT3 come ONLY with PDK? meaning, the old stick will not even be an option?
if you can still get the car with either, then i say go go go Porsche, because then they'd have the best of both worlds. i'm sure the PDK equipped car will be faster than the stick on track, even with a hotshoe driver in both.
the march of technology is inexorable. the car WILL be faster. (Walter Rohrl said that PDK adds roughly 10kg of weight to the car)
and for those of us who insist on the driver involvement of a stick (i may well be one of them, though the only paddle shift car i've driven was an F430,) then if Porsche still offered it, everyone would be happy!
if you can still get the car with either, then i say go go go Porsche, because then they'd have the best of both worlds. i'm sure the PDK equipped car will be faster than the stick on track, even with a hotshoe driver in both.
the march of technology is inexorable. the car WILL be faster. (Walter Rohrl said that PDK adds roughly 10kg of weight to the car)
and for those of us who insist on the driver involvement of a stick (i may well be one of them, though the only paddle shift car i've driven was an F430,) then if Porsche still offered it, everyone would be happy!
#13
oh, by coincidence, just got this in my email 10 mins ago:
"New Porsche 911 with Direct Fuel Injection and Double-Clutch Gearbox
Stuttgart. Starting on 5 July, Dr. Ing. h.c. F. Porsche AG, Stuttgart, is
introducing the next generation of the 911 model series. The four new
models – two Coupés and two Cabriolets – with classic rear-wheel drive
offer an even higher standard of dynamic performance thanks to their
all-new flat-six power units displacing 3.6 and, re-spectively, 3.8 litres.
And the introduction for the first time of direct fuel injection on a
Porsche sports car, together with the optional double-clutch gearbox
Porsche-Doppelkupplung (PDK), makes the new 911 even more sporting and
dynamic.
At the same time these new technologies enhance the already outstanding
efficiency of the 911 to an even higher level than before: Featuring PDK,
the Carrera Coupé offers outstanding fuel economy of 9.8 litres/100
kilometres, equal to 28.8 mpg imp. And with all new Carreras remaining
significantly below the fuel consumption benchmark of 11 litres/100
kilometres, equal to 25.7 mpg imp, CO2 emissions are down by up to 15 per
cent.
Maximum output of the 911 Carrera with its 3.6-litre power unit is up by 20
bhp to 345 bhp (254 kW). Output on the 911 Carrera S with its 3.8-litre
power unit is equally impressive, up by 30 bhp to 385 bhp (283 kW). With
this extra power, the Carrera S Coupé now offers a top speed of slightly
over 300 km/h or 186 mph.
The new generation of the 911 is available for the first time with the new
Porsche-Doppelkupplung (PDK), Porsche’s double-clutch gearbox. Offering no
less than seven forward gears, the new gearbox combines the driving comfort
of a converter automatic transmission with the dynamic gearshift of a
sequential racing gearbox. And since PDK also boasts an automatic gearshift
function, it replaces the former Porsche Tiptronic S automatic transmission
on both the Carrera and Carrera S. Through its optimised and adaptive
gearshift programs, PDK improves the car’s acceleration and reduces fuel
consumption to a level even lower than before.
Porsche developed this gearshift principle featuring two clutches to shift
gears without the slightest interruption of traction and pulling power and
without even the slightest break in between gears no less than 25 years ago
for motorsport. Porsche works drivers benefiting from this technology were
able to accelerate faster than their competitors and keep both hands on the
steering wheel while shifting gears, thus avoiding even the slightest
distraction while shifting. The pioneering achievement from back then now
gives the new 911 Carrera even better performance: Equipped with
seven-speed PDK, the Carrera Coupé accelerates in 4.5 seconds from 0-100
km/h, another 0.2 seconds faster than with a manual six-speed gearbox. And
the customer in search of optimum driving dynamics even has the option to
combine PDK with Porsche’s optional Sport Chrono Plus including Launch
Control. The result is high-speed acceleration free of slip from a
standstill and a racing gearshift, with the car accelerating to 100 km/h in
a truly outstanding 4.3 seconds.
The new generation of the 911 stands out clearly at first sight through
innovations in design both front and rear as well as new lights with LED
technology. LED daytime driving lights and bi-xenon headlights now standard
on all new models in the Carrera range give the silhouette of the 911 even
more distinctive style and a truly unique look, interacting with new LED
rear lights to ensure an unmistakable and striking appearance also at the
rear. And as a further safety option, Porsche now also offers Dynamic
Bending Lights on all models.
Prices start at Euro 69,600.- for the Carrera (Euro base price). The
Carrera Cabriolet and Carrera S both retail at Euro 78,000.- (Euro base
price), and the Carrera S Cabriolet is entering the market at Euro 88,000."
"New Porsche 911 with Direct Fuel Injection and Double-Clutch Gearbox
Stuttgart. Starting on 5 July, Dr. Ing. h.c. F. Porsche AG, Stuttgart, is
introducing the next generation of the 911 model series. The four new
models – two Coupés and two Cabriolets – with classic rear-wheel drive
offer an even higher standard of dynamic performance thanks to their
all-new flat-six power units displacing 3.6 and, re-spectively, 3.8 litres.
And the introduction for the first time of direct fuel injection on a
Porsche sports car, together with the optional double-clutch gearbox
Porsche-Doppelkupplung (PDK), makes the new 911 even more sporting and
dynamic.
At the same time these new technologies enhance the already outstanding
efficiency of the 911 to an even higher level than before: Featuring PDK,
the Carrera Coupé offers outstanding fuel economy of 9.8 litres/100
kilometres, equal to 28.8 mpg imp. And with all new Carreras remaining
significantly below the fuel consumption benchmark of 11 litres/100
kilometres, equal to 25.7 mpg imp, CO2 emissions are down by up to 15 per
cent.
Maximum output of the 911 Carrera with its 3.6-litre power unit is up by 20
bhp to 345 bhp (254 kW). Output on the 911 Carrera S with its 3.8-litre
power unit is equally impressive, up by 30 bhp to 385 bhp (283 kW). With
this extra power, the Carrera S Coupé now offers a top speed of slightly
over 300 km/h or 186 mph.
The new generation of the 911 is available for the first time with the new
Porsche-Doppelkupplung (PDK), Porsche’s double-clutch gearbox. Offering no
less than seven forward gears, the new gearbox combines the driving comfort
of a converter automatic transmission with the dynamic gearshift of a
sequential racing gearbox. And since PDK also boasts an automatic gearshift
function, it replaces the former Porsche Tiptronic S automatic transmission
on both the Carrera and Carrera S. Through its optimised and adaptive
gearshift programs, PDK improves the car’s acceleration and reduces fuel
consumption to a level even lower than before.
Porsche developed this gearshift principle featuring two clutches to shift
gears without the slightest interruption of traction and pulling power and
without even the slightest break in between gears no less than 25 years ago
for motorsport. Porsche works drivers benefiting from this technology were
able to accelerate faster than their competitors and keep both hands on the
steering wheel while shifting gears, thus avoiding even the slightest
distraction while shifting. The pioneering achievement from back then now
gives the new 911 Carrera even better performance: Equipped with
seven-speed PDK, the Carrera Coupé accelerates in 4.5 seconds from 0-100
km/h, another 0.2 seconds faster than with a manual six-speed gearbox. And
the customer in search of optimum driving dynamics even has the option to
combine PDK with Porsche’s optional Sport Chrono Plus including Launch
Control. The result is high-speed acceleration free of slip from a
standstill and a racing gearshift, with the car accelerating to 100 km/h in
a truly outstanding 4.3 seconds.
The new generation of the 911 stands out clearly at first sight through
innovations in design both front and rear as well as new lights with LED
technology. LED daytime driving lights and bi-xenon headlights now standard
on all new models in the Carrera range give the silhouette of the 911 even
more distinctive style and a truly unique look, interacting with new LED
rear lights to ensure an unmistakable and striking appearance also at the
rear. And as a further safety option, Porsche now also offers Dynamic
Bending Lights on all models.
Prices start at Euro 69,600.- for the Carrera (Euro base price). The
Carrera Cabriolet and Carrera S both retail at Euro 78,000.- (Euro base
price), and the Carrera S Cabriolet is entering the market at Euro 88,000."
#14
They were afraid of the GT-R stealing their thunder
PS: Now you cannot say the GT-R drives itself and the GT3 is a "real" car