GT3 RS on track
#46
01-21-2009, 05:37 PM
Oh man! you are one of those snot kicking boosted NSX gang lol. you guys are hella fast - the only car that pass me the whole day. i usually run the mixed group but they were out of space so Doug put me in the intermediate B group.
i like Bob and esp his teaching style. he is not condescending and laugh when i make god awful mistakes. i will ask him to ride with me again next time for some tips. it's always good to learn from instructor after doing couple sole sessions
i like Bob and esp his teaching style. he is not condescending and laugh when i make god awful mistakes. i will ask him to ride with me again next time for some tips. it's always good to learn from instructor after doing couple sole sessions
tell him to drive his Ruf boxster next time.
i love the ears on his helmet.
i always give him trouble ;-)
#47
01-21-2009, 09:08 PM
Hey mike I was at thunderhill and I remember seeing you.
I was in a silver 997 gt3 with blach wheels. The car was
Absolutely awesome, very predictable. The only turn I
Needed to lift off at was 14, to get the tail around quicker.
I was in a silver 997 gt3 with blach wheels. The car was
Absolutely awesome, very predictable. The only turn I
Needed to lift off at was 14, to get the tail around quicker.
#48
01-22-2009, 01:45 AM
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Your pccb issues
1) First issue is that not until a PCCB equiped car has been to the track and not until about the 3rd lap or so of hard braking will the ceramic rotors themsleves get scrubbed in enough to allow the "bite-point" to fall approximately 1 inch so that the brake pedal and gas pedal now line up for proper heal/toe. As you know, when new, the initial bite point of ceramic rotors is very high under street conditions and is very on/off (i.e. terrible from a modulation perspective and from a heal/toe perspective requires some gymnatics of the right foot. The good news is now that you have "scrubbed" them in, the pedals now line-up. What you likely experienced was the lowering of the bite point while on the track and your brain (rightly so) may have attributed it to fade.
2) The stock pads that are delivered with the ceramics will absolutely when new experience a "gas release" during the first really hot session and you will likely miss 2 corners (you have to be ready for this it happens with all new pads) - it feels like you can't push hard enough and the car is not stopping. If there are no police around try your hardest to get this gas release done on the street when you put in new pads before you hit the track
3) It is possible and maybe it happened to you, that the above two things happen at the same time (bite-point lowers / new pad gas release). I'm pretty sure this happened to me 20 months ago at limerock on the first trackday in the spring of 2007. If this happens, not only is your brain freaking out because the car is not stopping but i think the computer also freaks out and believe it or not the pedal goes virtually to the floor.
The good news is that now that your initial bite-point has moved lower what is also magical is that the pedal "feel" is no longer on/off but can now be modulated (much better for the track)
I would suggest changing the brake fluid to motul or better (motul works for me)
Hope that helps
Paul
1) First issue is that not until a PCCB equiped car has been to the track and not until about the 3rd lap or so of hard braking will the ceramic rotors themsleves get scrubbed in enough to allow the "bite-point" to fall approximately 1 inch so that the brake pedal and gas pedal now line up for proper heal/toe. As you know, when new, the initial bite point of ceramic rotors is very high under street conditions and is very on/off (i.e. terrible from a modulation perspective and from a heal/toe perspective requires some gymnatics of the right foot. The good news is now that you have "scrubbed" them in, the pedals now line-up. What you likely experienced was the lowering of the bite point while on the track and your brain (rightly so) may have attributed it to fade.
2) The stock pads that are delivered with the ceramics will absolutely when new experience a "gas release" during the first really hot session and you will likely miss 2 corners (you have to be ready for this it happens with all new pads) - it feels like you can't push hard enough and the car is not stopping. If there are no police around try your hardest to get this gas release done on the street when you put in new pads before you hit the track
3) It is possible and maybe it happened to you, that the above two things happen at the same time (bite-point lowers / new pad gas release). I'm pretty sure this happened to me 20 months ago at limerock on the first trackday in the spring of 2007. If this happens, not only is your brain freaking out because the car is not stopping but i think the computer also freaks out and believe it or not the pedal goes virtually to the floor.
The good news is that now that your initial bite-point has moved lower what is also magical is that the pedal "feel" is no longer on/off but can now be modulated (much better for the track)
I would suggest changing the brake fluid to motul or better (motul works for me)
Hope that helps
Paul
I will stay with OEM pads for now to see how it feels like on my next event. will change brake fluid soon
what a great info on Porsche LSD. I will look into this matter more. may investigate on the motorsport LSD too/ rep points to ya
#49
01-22-2009, 01:57 AM
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Rep Power: 132 i just got in the 2/13 NCRC event at TH. will see ya there. which car will you be driving?
#50
01-22-2009, 03:30 PM
It was the Tequipment roll bar. Fortunately, there was no passenger in the car. As the picture suggests, a passenger would probably not have survived. 
The car apparently nosed into the dirt and bounced off the the roof on the passenger side, before landing upright again.
Sorry for the poor image quality - it's a poor capture of my computer screen.
The car apparently nosed into the dirt and bounced off the the roof on the passenger side, before landing upright again. Sorry for the poor image quality - it's a poor capture of my computer screen.
#51
01-22-2009, 09:14 PM
WOW! thanks for the info and that help explain why i almost stop the car to check my brakes at the track lol
I will stay with OEM pads for now to see how it feels like on my next event. will change brake fluid soon
Paul, you lost me at hello lol
what a great info on Porsche LSD. I will look into this matter more. may investigate on the motorsport LSD too/ rep points to ya
I will stay with OEM pads for now to see how it feels like on my next event. will change brake fluid soon
Paul, you lost me at hello lol
what a great info on Porsche LSD. I will look into this matter more. may investigate on the motorsport LSD too/ rep points to ya
you also need to find a place to install it. it's no easy job to set back lash. jerry woods enterprises would do it. not sure dealer can do it right.
#54
01-24-2009, 10:22 PM
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Why would they let a guy in the green run group take a passenger for a ride?
Nice shots anyway!
Nice shots anyway!
#55
01-26-2009, 05:37 PM
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