Originally Posted by HK DRE

Hi I am new here.
LOL, yes I just created an account and this is my very first post
Come on guys, 2 seconds faster out of 8 minutes total time- i call that dead even. Im not here to argue that Nissan's claimed lap times are real or overblown, but it is simply an amazing car.
I just bought a GTR last week, but I also own an Audi S5 and a 997 vert. Driving the GTR is simply an awe inspiring experience, when you mash that throttle it pulls so violently and accelerates like a bat out of hell. I dont doubt Nissan's lap times are real, maybe slightly off this test against the GT3 but who cares, its still LOL fast. And the thing is this car handles like its on rails and is perfect as a daily driver. I can give it praise all day long, but you guys are going to flame me for it so ill stop here.
Having said all that, I prefer driving my regular 997 more..its a very different experience- much more engaging and i prefer the raw feeling of the NA 6 more than a TT V8. So much more fun.
The GTR though i can say has unlimited power it seems, I have barely gone half the maximum speed this car can handle as the traffic here hasnt allowed that so far. By the way, my GTR has an HKS 600hp kit with exhaust, will post pics up later when I have time.
Thanks for reading my post. I hope my next car could be a 997TT convertible.

Originally Posted by ALPINE_997

You sure you have a TT V8? Last time I checked under the hood there was a TT V6 looking back at me. Did Nissan tell you otherwise?

Originally Posted by pete95zhn

Don't know about that, but in the latest issue of German sport auto ( # 6/2009 ) was the supertest of 997.2 GT3. Horst von Saurma, the editor, did a 7 min 48 sec lap with a 997.1 GT3 in 2006, now with 997.2 GT3 the time was 7 min 40 sec. OEM MPSC N0 tires.
In the next issue they will supertest the GT-R, 'ring laptime will be issued too...

Originally Posted by BD-

Interesting. Now given that the 997.1's official time with Rohrl driving is 7:42, one could presume that with the 997.2 GT3 he might manage something around 7:34, i.e. 8 seconds faster. Hopefully they will supertest an LHD GTR in Sport Auto, then it will be a like-for-like comparison.

Originally Posted by HK DRE

Hi I am new here.
LOL, yes I just created an account and this is my very first post
Come on guys, 2 seconds faster out of 8 minutes total time- i call that dead even. Im not here to argue that Nissan's claimed lap times are real or overblown, but it is simply an amazing car.
I just bought a GTR last week, but I also own an Audi S5 and a 997 vert. Driving the GTR is simply an awe inspiring experience, when you mash that throttle it pulls so violently and accelerates like a bat out of hell. I dont doubt Nissan's lap times are real, maybe slightly off this test against the GT3 but who cares, its still LOL fast. And the thing is this car handles like its on rails and is perfect as a daily driver. I can give it praise all day long, but you guys are going to flame me for it so ill stop here.
Having said all that, I prefer driving my regular 997 more..its a very different experience- much more engaging and i prefer the raw feeling of the NA 6 more than a TT V8. So much more fun.
The GTR though i can say has unlimited power it seems, I have barely gone half the maximum speed this car can handle as the traffic here hasnt allowed that so far. By the way, my GTR has an HKS 600hp kit with exhaust, will post pics up later when I have time.
Thanks for reading my post. I hope my next car could be a 997TT convertible.

Originally Posted by rr4

I have a GT3RS and I drove a friend's GT-R for the first time last saturday.

Hate to admit it, but after driving the GT-R, getting into the RS feels like your driving a Toyota Camry. I find it truly surprising that a GT3RS or GT3 for that matter can beat the GT-R at a track. The GT-R feels ferociously fast, brutally bruatlly fast...it is a very special car. Did I mention that GT-R is fast? The acceleration of the GT-R is so brutal when compared to a GT3.

Unless you have driven both back to back, you really can't talk about the GT-R.

I was prepared to hate the GT-R but I can't.

Originally Posted by monaroCountry

Notice the RS at the end?
7:42 --- 160.52 km/h - Porsche 997 GT3 RS, 415 PS/1420 kg (*mfr.)
7:43 --- 160.17 km/h - Porsche 996 GT3 RS, factory test driver Walter Roehrl (MOTOR magazine)


The 997.2 GT3's official time is 7:40, the previous 997.1 GT3's official time is 7:47.

http://www.autoguide.com/auto-news/2...rburgring.html

Nissan's official time for its base GTR is 7:27.56 Car Magazine achieved a disappointing 7:51.

Originally Posted by monaroCountry

Nissan really set themselves up for a failure by trying to fool everyone that their car was faster than a Zonda and Enzo. Some people just wasnt easily led and refused to believe the time was legit.

Nissan inviting journalists to have a look around the car for any modifications.....big deal. How are journalists supposed to know if the car had a modified ECU and how much boost it was running.

Suzuki and the GTR are not mythical creatures with mythical powers. Suzuki is a great driver but is not any better than the other ring experts that only achieved a 7:50's with the GTR. Suzuki had even competed in F1 once, only completing two races and finishing close to last on qualifying, practice and race.

Originally Posted by rr4

I have a GT3RS and I drove a friend's GT-R for the first time last saturday.

Hate to admit it, but after driving the GT-R, getting into the RS feels like your driving a Toyota Camry. I find it truly surprising that a GT3RS or GT3 for that matter can beat the GT-R at a track. The GT-R feels ferociously fast, brutally bruatlly fast...it is a very special car. Did I mention that GT-R is fast? The acceleration of the GT-R is so brutal when compared to a GT3.

Unless you have driven both back to back, you really can't talk about the GT-R.

I was prepared to hate the GT-R but I can't.

Originally Posted by HK DRE

Hi I am new here.
LOL, yes I just created an account and this is my very first post
Come on guys, 2 seconds faster out of 8 minutes total time- i call that dead even. Im not here to argue that Nissan's claimed lap times are real or overblown, but it is simply an amazing car.
I just bought a GTR last week, but I also own an Audi S5 and a 997 vert. Driving the GTR is simply an awe inspiring experience, when you mash that throttle it pulls so violently and accelerates like a bat out of hell. I dont doubt Nissan's lap times are real, maybe slightly off this test against the GT3 but who cares, its still LOL fast. And the thing is this car handles like its on rails and is perfect as a daily driver. I can give it praise all day long, but you guys are going to flame me for it so ill stop here.
Having said all that, I prefer driving my regular 997 more..its a very different experience- much more engaging and i prefer the raw feeling of the NA 6 more than a TT V8. So much more fun.
The GTR though i can say has unlimited power it seems, I have barely gone half the maximum speed this car can handle as the traffic here hasnt allowed that so far. By the way, my GTR has an HKS 600hp kit with exhaust, will post pics up later when I have time.
Thanks for reading my post. I hope my next car could be a 997TT convertible.

Originally Posted by iceman996

First I am not a Gt-R fan at all, NEVER. But let us just be fair. If you feel GT-R had modification when they were doing the ring testing, how can you tell Porsche had 100% stock car when they did the test? The 997 GT2 can easily add 40+hp by ECU mod, or cutting some weight...

To me at least Nissan shows their respect by inviting journalists, but Porsche never did.

Originally Posted by BD-

Hmmm... I've seen other sources that say the 7:42 in for a non-RS GT3. That link actually confirms it.

Originally Posted by monaroCountry

These are all the stock GT3 times. The underlined is the upcoming 997.2 GT3, the previous 997.1 GT3 is in italics, and the GT3 RS is bolded. Notice how close the manufacturer times are to the independent Sport Auto tests.

7:40 --- 161.22 km/h - Porsche 997 GT3, 435PS/1426kg (sport auto 06/09)
7:40* -- 161.22 km/h - Porsche 997 GT3, 435PS/1426kg, *company test driver Walter Roehrl
7:42 --- 160.52 km/h - Porsche 997 GT3 RS, 415 PS/1420 kg (*mfr.)
7:43 --- 160.17 km/h - Porsche 996 GT3 RS, factory test driver Walter Roehrl (MOTOR magazine)
7:45*-- 159.48 km/h - Porsche 997 GT3 RS, 415 PS/ 1424 kg, works driver Walter Roehrl, *mfr.
7:47* -- 158.80 km/h - Porsche 997 GT3, 415 PS/ 1440 kg, works driver Walter Roehrl, *mfr.
7:48 --- 158.46 km/h - Porsche 997 GT3 RS, 415 PS/1424 kg (sport auto 03/07)
7:48 --- 158.46 km/h - Porsche 996 GT3, 415 PS/1440kg (sport auto 07/06)
7:49 --- 158.12 km/h - Porsche 997 GT3, 435 PS/1426 kg

Originally Posted by BD-

From p85 of the CAR Magazine article, "Porsche 911 GT3 (997), 7min42s, June 2006, Walter Rohrl. Porsche 911 GT3 RS (997), 7min43s, date unknown, driver unknown."

Where you have (*mfr) for the GT3 RS, that would be Walter Rohrl, implying that he'd tested the GT3 RS for Porsche and elsewhere. Difficult to believe but the RS was no faster than the standard model.

Originally Posted by heavychevy

Not really difficult to believe, the 997 RS wasn't designed to be mush faster, is was more for appeal than overall improvements. Most cases show that it's barely faster if at all than the base GT3.