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Old 10-20-2004 | 12:49 PM
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CGT Oil Change

This text was posted on Ferrarichat. Anyone here have any comment?

"Porsche out does Ferrari!


Well, I knew that with this title, the thread would get a lot of looks

But I'm not interested in being flamed. This concerns repair costs. I was talking to the Porsche Service Manager today and he mentioned that they were starting to get a few Carerra GT’s in for oil changes and scrapped front ends- that car is LOW.

An oil change is easily over a grand. It turns out that to get to the oil pan you need to unscrew 128 screws of different sizes, so each one needs to be color coded by the Service Tech.

To replace the front underside clip will cost an owner a cool 40K-when the part comes, which will be in about 18-24 months.

Don’t know if these stories are true but this is a major dealer whose Service Manager usually is a straight on guy.

If so, I would say that Porsche has out-Ferrari’d Ferrari when it comes to maintenance."
 
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Old 10-20-2004 | 07:32 PM
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Oil pan??? No dry sump system w/ oil tank on a CGT??? That sounds really weird....hmmmm
 
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Old 10-20-2004 | 09:14 PM
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If memory serves, the CGT has a one piece underbody clip made of carbon fiber.
 
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no doubt that most the US dealers have no proper tool & experienced tech to work on those ''race'' car.
 
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Old 10-20-2004 | 11:42 PM
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no doubt that most the US dealers have no proper tool & experienced tech to work on those ''race'' car.
" no doubt that most US dealers ..."
My Porsche dealer's shop foreman told me the dealership had to buy tens of thousands of dollars of special tools and send 1 or 2 techs for training in Geogia in order to sell/service the C-GT.
 
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Old 10-20-2004 | 11:53 PM
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" no doubt that most US dealers ..."
My Porsche dealer's shop foreman told me the dealership had to buy tens of thousands of dollars of special tools and send 1 or 2 techs for training in Geogia in order to sell/service the C-GT.
Yes i was told the same thing. my point is CGT was designed as a race car & it needs a professional crew to service the car. i don't think a short program to train 1 or 2 techs per dealer is simply enough. Porsche will even fly a tech from Germany to fix the car if the problem can't be solved. however, all that saying is that if u don't have a experienced people to work on ur $400,000 car will u be pissed?

don't get me wrong though, i love the CGT to death but i just don't trust the dealers here servicing the car.
 
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Why would the underside clip need to be replaced? Do you mean if damaged? If so, is it easy for it to be damaged because of the height of the car?

Curious.
 
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This is going to hold me back a couple of years, before i try to get a carrera gt.
 
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Originally posted by 20C4S
Yes i was told the same thing. my point is CGT was designed as a race car & it needs a professional crew to service the car. i don't think a short program to train 1 or 2 techs per dealer is simply enough. Porsche will even fly a tech from Germany to fix the car if the problem can't be solved. however, all that saying is that if u don't have a experienced people to work on ur $400,000 car will u be pissed?

don't get me wrong though, i love the CGT to death but i just don't trust the dealers here servicing the car.
With 399 produced for the whole world , how " experienced " do you think the avg Ferrari dealership mechanic is with working on the the Enzo , a car equally " street race car " ? When it comes down to it, mechanics for all these cars will simply " replace " parts anyway , whether an engine or transmission or suspension piece. Factory would not let any dealership mechanic anywhere in the world tear something apart for limited production cars such as these .
At that point, it's Auto Mechanics 101 to turn some wrenches to R&R something-whether it's an Enzo or a Chevy truck.
 

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let's leave Ferrari out of this discussion.

again, my point is, since they are ''race designed'' street car people sould look at them at different perspective. that's all!

therefore, for people who have the $ to buy the car should understand the concept of the car. for the people who can't afford it shouldn't ***** about it.
 
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Originally posted by 20C4S
let's leave Ferrari out of this discussion.

again, my point is, since they are ''race designed'' street car people sould look at them at different perspective. that's all!

therefore, for people who have the $ to buy the car should understand the concept of the car. for the people who can't afford it shouldn't ***** about it.
Ferrai Enzo was merely another example, as well as car like Ford GT being " fixable" at your local Explorer ( i.e., Ford ) store , whereby reps would scratch their heads and wait for factory to figure something out as all the cars on such small production runs are forever " beta " test cars .
 

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Old 10-21-2004 | 05:08 AM
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Funny, from reading the posts on this board I thought Ferraris were so expensive to maintain by Porsche standards?
 
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Old 10-21-2004 | 05:38 AM
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as far as i know Ford GT is still considered old school technology compare to Enzo & CGT
 
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i think champion and brumos could handle the cgt just fine
 
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Old 10-21-2004 | 08:29 AM
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fyi,

Dealers are trained and approved at different levels of repair. Check with your dealer to find their level.

All tools needed to support that service level have been auto shipped to the dealer.

At least 1 tech has been trained on the vehicle and with the tools at any servicing dealer.
 


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