another GT2 vs GTR test...
#1
06-07-2009, 04:26 AM
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Philippines
Posts: 877
Rep Power: 59 
another GT2 vs GTR test...
...this time from the latest issue of Motor magazine (Oz publication)
sorry for crap images, i was too lazy to scan so i took photos with my camera...
pretty good, well balanced article. highest praises for both cars, while noting that they are very different animals, and the GT2 definitely the much stronger performer, albeit at a stratospheric premium vs the Nissan.
they gave 10/10 to the Porsche, and 9/10 to the GTR.
also did head to head on a racetrack, where the GT2 was clearly faster than the GTR. the GTR was only faster in one corner/section of track in fact.
interesting too the below chart. we all know that the GTR gets its impressive acceleration due to a combination of the trick dual clutch tranny, excellent AWD system, sticky tires, and aggressive gear ratios. but this chart graphically illustrates how much lower geared the GTR is-- between 20-30kmh lower in each gear...
sorry for crap images, i was too lazy to scan so i took photos with my camera...
pretty good, well balanced article. highest praises for both cars, while noting that they are very different animals, and the GT2 definitely the much stronger performer, albeit at a stratospheric premium vs the Nissan.
they gave 10/10 to the Porsche, and 9/10 to the GTR.
also did head to head on a racetrack, where the GT2 was clearly faster than the GTR. the GTR was only faster in one corner/section of track in fact.
interesting too the below chart. we all know that the GTR gets its impressive acceleration due to a combination of the trick dual clutch tranny, excellent AWD system, sticky tires, and aggressive gear ratios. but this chart graphically illustrates how much lower geared the GTR is-- between 20-30kmh lower in each gear...
#2
06-07-2009, 06:37 PM
Very cool article, but I dont know if it was a fair comparison, the GTR is a big 4 seater AWD leather-clad techno-extravaganza, whereas the GT2 is a stripped down track-biased PSC-draped engineering marvel, not to mention the price difference.
I think it needs to be recognised that the R35 GTR performs a role that has no direct Porsche equivalent.
... go GT2!
I think it needs to be recognised that the R35 GTR performs a role that has no direct Porsche equivalent.
... go GT2!
#4
06-07-2009, 09:05 PM
Waiting on this claim to "slaughter" the CGT/GT2.
#5
06-07-2009, 09:20 PM
AWARD-WINNING NISSAN GT-R ACHIEVES NEW RECORD LAP TIME AT NURBURGRING CIRCUIT
TOKYO (May 14, 2009) - The NISSAN GT-R, winner of the 2009 World Performance Car of the Year, has improved its lap time at the renowned Nurburgring Nordschleife circuit in Germany to 7min 26 seconds 70 on April 23.
This new time underlines Nissan engineering team’s commitment to constantly challenge the GT-R’s performance. Previous recorded lap times at the ‘Ring’ were:
- 7 minutes 27 seconds 56 on April 15, 2009
- 7 minutes 29 in April 2008
- 7 minutes 38 in September 2007
"This record demonstrates our commitment to the continuous evolution of the Nissan GT-R," says Kazutoshi Mizuno, Chief Vehicle Engineer and Chief Vehicle Specialist. "We would like to continue delivering the passion and pride of ownership to our customers by improving its performance every year."
TOKYO (May 14, 2009) - The NISSAN GT-R, winner of the 2009 World Performance Car of the Year, has improved its lap time at the renowned Nurburgring Nordschleife circuit in Germany to 7min 26 seconds 70 on April 23.
This new time underlines Nissan engineering team’s commitment to constantly challenge the GT-R’s performance. Previous recorded lap times at the ‘Ring’ were:
- 7 minutes 27 seconds 56 on April 15, 2009
- 7 minutes 29 in April 2008
- 7 minutes 38 in September 2007
"This record demonstrates our commitment to the continuous evolution of the Nissan GT-R," says Kazutoshi Mizuno, Chief Vehicle Engineer and Chief Vehicle Specialist. "We would like to continue delivering the passion and pride of ownership to our customers by improving its performance every year."
#7
06-07-2009, 10:23 PM
If the GTR wasn't so ugly there'd probably be a lot more supporters.
Even though the GT2 is faster... it should be... it's more than twice the price of a GTR.
Even though the GT2 is faster... it should be... it's more than twice the price of a GTR.
Trending Topics
#9
06-08-2009, 09:42 AM
I know a lot about the GT-R and can comfortably tell you guys it's one of the greatest, safest and versatile sports cars in the world. There is a huge amount of engineering behind it. It will be many years before Porsche or Ferrari can match the performance, especially with the GT-R's unique engine/transmission split.
Last edited by Bill S; 06-08-2009 at 09:47 AM.
#10
06-08-2009, 11:13 AM
Yeah the GTR is held in very high regard by most. It might not always seem like it here on 6speed but you're right. Porsche is struggling to keep it's ultimate affordable sports car image just because of one 1st gen model from Nissan.
Now with a much cheaper car that is better all around except for very subjective factors like "feel" and "soul" it's tougher for Porsche to sell cars when for so long they've been the budget supercar company in the shadows of Lambo and Ferrari.
Now with a much cheaper car that is better all around except for very subjective factors like "feel" and "soul" it's tougher for Porsche to sell cars when for so long they've been the budget supercar company in the shadows of Lambo and Ferrari.
#11
06-08-2009, 03:03 PM
I know a lot about the GT-R and can comfortably tell you guys it's one of the greatest, safest and versatile sports cars in the world. There is a huge amount of engineering behind it. It will be many years before Porsche or Ferrari can match the performance, especially with the GT-R's unique engine/transmission split.
What are you babbling about?
Yeah the GTR is held in very high regard by most. It might not always seem like it here on 6speed but you're right. Porsche is struggling to keep it's ultimate affordable sports car image just because of one 1st gen model from Nissan.
Now with a much cheaper car that is better all around except for very subjective factors like "feel" and "soul" it's tougher for Porsche to sell cars when for so long they've been the budget supercar company in the shadows of Lambo and Ferrari.
Now with a much cheaper car that is better all around except for very subjective factors like "feel" and "soul" it's tougher for Porsche to sell cars when for so long they've been the budget supercar company in the shadows of Lambo and Ferrari.
#12
06-08-2009, 03:48 PM
I know a lot about the GT-R and can comfortably tell you guys it's one of the greatest, safest and versatile sports cars in the world. There is a huge amount of engineering behind it. It will be many years before Porsche or Ferrari can match the performance, especially with the GT-R's unique engine/transmission split.
That just doesn't make sense.Yeah the GTR is held in very high regard by most. It might not always seem like it here on 6speed but you're right. Porsche is struggling to keep it's ultimate affordable sports car image just because of one 1st gen model from Nissan.
Now with a much cheaper car that is better all around except for very subjective factors like "feel" and "soul" it's tougher for Porsche to sell cars when for so long they've been the budget supercar company in the shadows of Lambo and Ferrari.
Now with a much cheaper car that is better all around except for very subjective factors like "feel" and "soul" it's tougher for Porsche to sell cars when for so long they've been the budget supercar company in the shadows of Lambo and Ferrari.
The Spec-V's price blows both your statements out of the water.
People said the same thing about the Z-06. It has it's place, it's amazing, but it didn't put Porsche or Ferrari in the red...
#13
06-08-2009, 04:45 PM
I know a lot about the GT-R and can comfortably tell you guys it's one of the greatest, safest and versatile sports cars in the world. There is a huge amount of engineering behind it. It will be many years before Porsche or Ferrari can match the performance, especially with the GT-R's unique engine/transmission split.
I have been to the track a number of times, and every time GTR's are there, one goes home with a transmission problem. The last one to go, the owner had someone deliver his 997GT3 to the track to finish the day off!
When they work, my god they are fast, but I prefer to do the entire day, not just the first half.
#14
06-08-2009, 04:55 PM
I know a lot about the GT-R and can comfortably tell you guys it's one of the greatest, safest and versatile sports cars in the world. There is a huge amount of engineering behind it. It will be many years before Porsche or Ferrari can match the performance, especially with the GT-R's unique engine/transmission split.
