excellence gt2 vs zr1
#61
01-12-2010, 02:39 PM
Curious, does anyone know what max cornering g's these cars did in this test?
I would like to compare stock vs. mod?
With the P50 pads i have seen over 1.3 g's compared to this test of 1.1 g's.
I would like to compare stock vs. mod?
With the P50 pads i have seen over 1.3 g's compared to this test of 1.1 g's.
#62
01-12-2010, 04:37 PM
test G forces are measured by driving the car around a 200 foot asphalt circle to the limit of adhesion. if you got your 1.3 from a corner at the trak, its not the same test.
#63
01-12-2010, 05:32 PM
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GM had some big ***** trying to build and sell a 100k+ vette to begin with. there are beautiful options for buyers looking to spend north of 100k on a car and most in that group would not have any interest in a vette regardless of its performance. then on top of that, they copy the C6Z in most every detail. same body, same frame, same interior.
i dont agree that a GT3 and base carrera look the same. totaly different street presence and many styling differences, where as the Zr1 and GS do look 99% alike.
about track times, myself and a lot of people i know would pick the drivers car way ahead of the faster lap time. if you care more about the number than how you got to the number, then i wont argue with that.
the Zr1 and my modified C6Z feel like a couch compared to the GT3. i dont enjoy driving couches, even fast ones.
i hope i dont seem defensive, but it needs to be mentioned that those great performance numbers put up by the ZR1 come at a great price. its stupid fast, yes, but looses out in just about every other measure to cars its trying to compete against.
you call the new RS 'one of the most desireble track day cars'. its going to be slower than the zr1 so why the desirability. exactly
i dont agree that a GT3 and base carrera look the same. totaly different street presence and many styling differences, where as the Zr1 and GS do look 99% alike.
about track times, myself and a lot of people i know would pick the drivers car way ahead of the faster lap time. if you care more about the number than how you got to the number, then i wont argue with that.
the Zr1 and my modified C6Z feel like a couch compared to the GT3. i dont enjoy driving couches, even fast ones.
i hope i dont seem defensive, but it needs to be mentioned that those great performance numbers put up by the ZR1 come at a great price. its stupid fast, yes, but looses out in just about every other measure to cars its trying to compete against.
you call the new RS 'one of the most desireble track day cars'. its going to be slower than the zr1 so why the desirability. exactly
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#64
01-12-2010, 06:37 PM
I agree
The ZR-1 and ACR are both bargains for what they offer. As good as or better than in every performance aspect compared to cars cost many times what they do. And not a lot of gizmos and technology to get it done. Good old fashion mechanical engineering. But they both do it in extremely different ways which cater to different segments. Win win.
The GT3 believe it or not is a bargain too. How many cars have you been able to take straight to a race stock and it hold up? The GT3 is the best, most performance enduring car of it's generation easily (996 and 997).
I don't like the ZR-1 because it has a supercharger (don't like the Ford GT either for that reason, and I think it's ugly). Put an NA LS7/LS9 based 454 with all forged internals and it would be killer (with a better interior).
The ZR-1 and ACR are both bargains for what they offer. As good as or better than in every performance aspect compared to cars cost many times what they do. And not a lot of gizmos and technology to get it done. Good old fashion mechanical engineering. But they both do it in extremely different ways which cater to different segments. Win win.
The GT3 believe it or not is a bargain too. How many cars have you been able to take straight to a race stock and it hold up? The GT3 is the best, most performance enduring car of it's generation easily (996 and 997).
I don't like the ZR-1 because it has a supercharger (don't like the Ford GT either for that reason, and I think it's ugly). Put an NA LS7/LS9 based 454 with all forged internals and it would be killer (with a better interior).
#65
01-12-2010, 07:30 PM
In comparison, a hooker on the street may be able to out perform many other women and in many cases look fantastic; yet for some reason there is just no interest to me. Not even for just a test drive.
As for price; what you pay up front may not be the total cost in the end.
As for price; what you pay up front may not be the total cost in the end.
#66
01-13-2010, 11:03 AM
My questions, what were the cornering G's of the ZR1 and the GT2 at the track during this test?
#70
01-16-2010, 05:50 AM
This forum surprises me with this magazine trash talk. Let's leave the magazine numbers to the kids but bring first hand experience to this thread.
To start let me first say I cannot afford either car. However, the ZR1 is incredibly fast. Regardless of it's interior. The 996's interior wasn't the best either. But, you don't buy a GT2 since it has Alcantera, you buy it for its history as one of the greatest supercars to hit the market. The power and history of turbo 911's is enough to justify it's price difference. The GT2 seperates itself from all other cars by its price by continuing with its exclusiveness.
To start let me first say I cannot afford either car. However, the ZR1 is incredibly fast. Regardless of it's interior. The 996's interior wasn't the best either. But, you don't buy a GT2 since it has Alcantera, you buy it for its history as one of the greatest supercars to hit the market. The power and history of turbo 911's is enough to justify it's price difference. The GT2 seperates itself from all other cars by its price by continuing with its exclusiveness.
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Corvette ZR1 vs "the Porsche Turbo" ON VIDEO!
According to my Tivo, 'SuperCars Exposed' on Monday, January 25th, 2010,
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Corvette ZR1 vs "the Porsche Turbo" ON VIDEO!
According to my Tivo, 'SuperCars Exposed' on Monday, January 25th, 2010,
will have an episode called, "The American Supercar". 5:30PM (CA time)
The Description: The Corvette ZR1 vs the Porsche Turbo.
REPEATS: 9:30pm Monday 1/25/10
5:30am Tuesday 1/26/10
I personally don't know IF this will be the Excellence article ON VIDEO or not, but it should be interesting!
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