I guess monkeys can drive F1 cars fast too. The Scuderia only comes in F1, the 458, the Enzo, The stradale. Dont think that purists only drive 6 speed.

The next GT3 will likely have PDK. As has been stated here, it doesnt work with the GT1 engine. Thats likely the only reason why it doesnt have PDK. Purist, schmurist - thems are the facts.

 

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You already got your original answer and it's likely that is not going to be the only answer as Porsche's fan base is made up primarily of purists which is why all of the front and mid engine variants have not been able to unseat the 911 for the flagship of the company.

Don't get your hopes up.

 

You must not have heard the part at the press release of the MK2 GT3 where the engineer said that there would be another life cycle for improvement in the GT1 motor.

You also must not have noticed that the RSR's always run a motor ahead of the GT3. If the motor cannot go in the RSR it won't go in the GT3. RSR's are still running 4.0 GT1's.

No PDK coming to GT3 anytime soon.

 

i think this is a personal thing,

i know people who will no longer be buying any new Ferrari's because there will be no 3 pedal option. but i also know people who would only buy F1/Egear etc.

none are bigger enthusiasts than any others, but one thing i have noticed is that those who buy egear cars generally are buyers who only keep a car for a short period then upgrade again. Those who buy manuals seem to be the guys who buy & keep them.

take what you will from my observation, but sometimes being the fastest or most efficient car around a track doesnt give you the biggest smile. I saw a video on the new turbo the other day. 0-60 in 3.01 seconds. and it didnt have any excitement of thrill to it. he just got in and stepped on the pedal. dont get me wrong its a technical feat and surely a real experience, but i doubt its any more fun than going 0-60 in 4 seconds in my car where i actually get to change gear.

Also i love down shifting & heel toe-ing, thats something i would miss terribly with an F1 gearbox.

 

True - but Ferrari doesnt seem to be worried as witnessed by the Scud and the 458. Maybe a dying breed of person who wont by F1 (that must be their thinking). I think the Scud's an OK car I like it more than any GT3 or GT2 variant.

I didnt buy my 4th 911 until PDK came out. Loved my 3 manuals. Love my PDK more - but thats ME. Dont understand why options are bad. Build both. Why would "purists" care what someone else buys anyways. Its not their car.

I play golf - use blades. I dont denigrate those that use perimeter weighted clubs..

 

Very well said. Why is it that guys with manuals think the rest of the people are so bad? I have both, and to each his own. I'm not going to throw darts at either person.

 

The only reason I didn't get the 2010 GT3 is not having PDK, but that is only ME. If I plan to drive the car more, PDK is a must.

 

I've driven an '04 GT3 for 4 years, done many track events. Now track an '08 Viper ACR. Also have a Ford GT w/ 850HP. And have had many manual sports cars and I do okay on the track. Have earned a couple Top Time of the Day in the GT3 in Porsche Club events so that would make me a decent driver using a manual transmission, but... I still want a PDK GT3. Why? For the simple fact that I now want something different, a car lighter than the TT, more powerful than a C2S, more intimate and affordable than a GT2. What's wrong w/ what I want? Are you listening Porsche??? Dump the GT1 block and lets move on.

 

As long as its is still a true dry sump motor (unlike the A91 motor in the new turbo and Carreras), and continue to offer 6 speed; I have now problem with that

I love the DCT tranny in my 2008 M3, especially for everyday driving, but realized how much I missed a 6 speed when I got my GT3.

 

Porsche - gt3 only manual
Ferrari - f450 no manual

kinda funny...i have dct in my m3, most because i dont like the manual box in the bmw...but the 6spd box in a porsche, especially the gt3 is just a dream

 

Because we are trying to separate those of use who buy Porsche's for their true meaning and those who just want to be seen behind the wheel of a Porsche, or having another expensive car in the garage. Posers who end up whining and getting the model lineup changed and having the manufacturer deviate from where it started. That don't want their GT3 to inconvenience them in traffic with a manual.

Look at BMW, they are nothing like what they used to be with the E30, E36 which were really drivers cars. Now the cars are big and pillowy soft. Now they don't look to build a M3 CSL, they'd rather build a X5.


That's the kind of garbage we'll end up with if we let posers take over the consumer opinion for Porsche. There will be plenty of cars with PDK in Porsche's lineup to choose from, can't we live in peace with just 1 car not having it????

We have people clamoring to scrap the GT1 motor, which is probably one of the winningest motors in history, and sure as heck wouldn't be easy to replace being so small in displacement, but so strong and effective. Having no clue what the motor means to Porsche or racing. People that want you to toss a proven race motor so they can have PDK with some BS unproven motor that they'd gladly accept. And these are the people you want Porsche thinking are their real enthusiasts? That really care about the real image of the brand?

 

Don't they do that now? We have the GT3 with manual and the Carrera S Cab for the chicks? Are we concerned that Porsche will travel the Ferrari route?

 

even walter couldn't post better lap times with the pdk vs 6-speed on the new turbo. times were exactly the same. if walter couldn't do better, to say that us mortals could to better with pdk seems questionable.
i also have a 997turbo with tip and for me, it is so boring to drive, even as my daily driver. no involvement at all.
as for the motor, LONG LIVE THE GT1 BLOCK.

 

PLEASE PLEASE tell me you have a link to that........


This will silence the PDK homers that think you are all of a sudden Schumacher because you have electron shifter.

Sequentials ARE NOT WORTH SEVERAL SECONDS ON A TRACK!!!!!!! At least not the fake ones. Put a cup car sequential and you may be on to something.

 

Porsche have been making targas since the brand began. The 356 had a cabriolet version and then it went away until the early 80's. I could care less what/who they put in a Carrera S. This is a GT3 we are talking about, posers not welcome. (Welcome to buy, not welcome to make decisions on the future)

What we are concerned about is Porsche making a Cayenne Hybrid instead of a future replacement for the CGT. Or getting to the point where the GT2 RS would be scrapped for some other mommy-mobile. They are not there as of now, but if PDK gets in a GT3 that's where it's headed.

People like that are never satisfied, they will want AWD, then softer seats with power and heat (sound familiar), softer suspension, then a convertible, bigger trunk space, less noise, all in a GT3. If you think I'm playing look at all the guys that want a convertible Z06 and more garbage to go in that as well.