FVD Brombacher – GT3 Rangers quest for an extremely potent exhaust & software package
#16
This is not about Akrapovic Vs FVD. Its about the BS claims you've made over the last year, talking about FVD as if they gave you stock benefits and such... and what do you have? 12+ HP and 20+ TQ with a full exhaust AND software?
After all that, the only thing you cant tell me is "Don't over think it. It's not that important. Put on your Akropavic exhaust", because I'm right
Last edited by GT1; 02-25-2010 at 11:53 PM.
#17
Important to me... not at all. I didn't spend a dime on this. After your almost one year conquest of the power gains you were claiming through FVD, the results are pretty weak. I did not come in this thread claiming anything about Akrapovic. Im just checking the facts, after all, you were telling everyone how massive the results were gonna be, but they are not and thats including software You even told me I should go with FVD Their website,http://www.fvd.de/us/en/Porsche-0/99...tyle-tips.html , states 25+ HP/ 25+TQ with this system(without software, which yours has) and didnt even reach that claim, To anyone spending almost $6K for that stainless steel system, it should matter when it does not produce the power advertised. PERIOD. You should be more concerned about yourself, not getting the gains you expected and your TT ARS M5 which is still not done since over a year ago, maybe 2 years now....
This is not about Akrapovic Vs FVD. Its about the BS claims you've made over the last year, talking about FVD as if they gave you stock benefits and such... and what do you have? 12+ HP and 20+ TQ with a full exhaust AND software?
After all that, the only thing you cant tell me is "Don't over think it. It's not that important. Put on your Akropavic exhaust", because I'm right
This is not about Akrapovic Vs FVD. Its about the BS claims you've made over the last year, talking about FVD as if they gave you stock benefits and such... and what do you have? 12+ HP and 20+ TQ with a full exhaust AND software?
After all that, the only thing you cant tell me is "Don't over think it. It's not that important. Put on your Akropavic exhaust", because I'm right
#20
AZ997TT,
Sure. The system pictured below is 110 dB with the rsr bypass tips (Not for faint of heart!!!) & 106 dB with use of stock muffler. As you can see we also give you the elbow's to run the stock center for power & less sound.
Here is the video running the stock center muffler:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WizXsz_StrE
Here is the link to our website for this system...
GT3 Rangers current system pictured below is 108 dB but you can order it for 106 db you would just need to let us know when you order.
Here is the link to our website for this system...
Thanks,
Rhonda
Sure. The system pictured below is 110 dB with the rsr bypass tips (Not for faint of heart!!!) & 106 dB with use of stock muffler. As you can see we also give you the elbow's to run the stock center for power & less sound.
Here is the video running the stock center muffler:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WizXsz_StrE
Here is the link to our website for this system...
GT3 Rangers current system pictured below is 108 dB but you can order it for 106 db you would just need to let us know when you order.
Here is the link to our website for this system...
Thanks,
Rhonda
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#21
NorthVan,
Thanks for the compliments! Is a GT3 still in the works for you? Bet your buddy with the BMW is dreading that day when you show up at the track with the GT3!
Fly996,
Thanks!
HRTC,
Thanks and great idea. Getting information together in one spot for all 6 speeders to see is a good thing. That way all GT3 owners can make a decision on what is right for them or for their needs.
Thanks,
Rhonda
Thanks for the compliments! Is a GT3 still in the works for you? Bet your buddy with the BMW is dreading that day when you show up at the track with the GT3!
Fly996,
Thanks!
HRTC,
Thanks and great idea. Getting information together in one spot for all 6 speeders to see is a good thing. That way all GT3 owners can make a decision on what is right for them or for their needs.
Thanks,
Rhonda
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#23
Great memory Rhonda, he didn't like the last round of mods, so he went and one upped me, and bought a GT3, now I get to look at the back of his car all the time
#25
What's this
Signing off with my name? Were you an airborne ranger too? UAH!
So Akrapovic is hurting that bad they have to give their systems away?
Oh btw in your rant above I think you forgot to tell me my sister was a ***** and my brother a drug dealer.
Enjoy your stuff and please do post your monster gains.
Ranger
Signing off with my name? Were you an airborne ranger too? UAH!
So Akrapovic is hurting that bad they have to give their systems away?
Oh btw in your rant above I think you forgot to tell me my sister was a ***** and my brother a drug dealer.
Enjoy your stuff and please do post your monster gains.
Ranger
#26
What's this
Signing off with my name? Were you an airborne ranger too? UAH!
So Akrapovic is hurting that bad they have to give their systems away?
Oh btw in your rant above I think you forgot to tell me my sister was a ***** and my brother a drug dealer.
Enjoy your stuff and please do post your monster gains.
Ranger
Signing off with my name? Were you an airborne ranger too? UAH!
So Akrapovic is hurting that bad they have to give their systems away?
Oh btw in your rant above I think you forgot to tell me my sister was a ***** and my brother a drug dealer.
Enjoy your stuff and please do post your monster gains.
Ranger
And again Ranger, I did not come in this thread claiming any superiority of Akrapovic over FVD. Nor, have I made any claims. Was just fed up with your FVD bs for the last year, and I didnt even have a GT3 back then . This is not about, " I made more power than you", its about putting out companies making claims that are not true and taking people like you that believe anything they say.
My before and after dyno will speak for itself, which will be done the same day and with exhaust only(no software, unlike yours). Whether better or not, lets just say, we'll see. It will be done at Champions, the same dyno you and FVD use. I will do STD and SAE correction since FVD used STD, which reads higher than SAE. If the Akrapovic makes the power they claim, great, I got my money's worth. Did you? ...... no.
Last edited by GT1; 02-27-2010 at 08:43 AM.
#27
Rhonda, correct me if I'm wrong, but:
The baseline results are: 370 whp and 279 wtq @ 82 degree weather.
The exhaust #1 with software results are: 381 whp and 277 wtq @ 82 degree weather.
The exhaust #2 with software results are: 394 whp and 297 wtq @ 70 degree weather.
The baseline and exhaust #1 have the same STD correction: 1.02, because the runs were in identical weather; but exhaust #2 has a correction of 0.99, because exhaust #2 dyno was done in 10 degree colder weather. 1.02-0.99 = 0.3 difference, which is 3%. As many know, every 10 degrees colder weather, will show a 3% higher reading(more power) difference on the same car, same dyno. In order to really compare these results, as if all runs were done in the same weather, 3% of the total output reading the exhaust #2 shows need to be deducted, because 10 degrees colder weather will show 3% higher output. By deducting that 3% off the results from exhaust #2, and factoring in the same weather to match the base line's and exhaust #1's weather, would bring exhaust #2 peak power down to 382 whp and 288 wtq (not 394whp, 297 wtq), that is the correct gain reading for exhaust #2 with software. 18 whp and 9 wtq more than the baseline, and only 10 wtq more than exhaust #1 without any HP gain, being that exhaust #2 has more back pressure that exhaust #1 loses.
The baseline results are: 370 whp and 279 wtq @ 82 degree weather.
The exhaust #1 with software results are: 381 whp and 277 wtq @ 82 degree weather.
The exhaust #2 with software results are: 394 whp and 297 wtq @ 70 degree weather.
The baseline and exhaust #1 have the same STD correction: 1.02, because the runs were in identical weather; but exhaust #2 has a correction of 0.99, because exhaust #2 dyno was done in 10 degree colder weather. 1.02-0.99 = 0.3 difference, which is 3%. As many know, every 10 degrees colder weather, will show a 3% higher reading(more power) difference on the same car, same dyno. In order to really compare these results, as if all runs were done in the same weather, 3% of the total output reading the exhaust #2 shows need to be deducted, because 10 degrees colder weather will show 3% higher output. By deducting that 3% off the results from exhaust #2, and factoring in the same weather to match the base line's and exhaust #1's weather, would bring exhaust #2 peak power down to 382 whp and 288 wtq (not 394whp, 297 wtq), that is the correct gain reading for exhaust #2 with software. 18 whp and 9 wtq more than the baseline, and only 10 wtq more than exhaust #1 without any HP gain, being that exhaust #2 has more back pressure that exhaust #1 loses.
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rhonda.roxburgh@fvd.net
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#28
JMD0977,
I am not sure about all of this hostility but I would like to point a few things…
If you are just checking the facts then please make sure that the facts are correct. Our website clearly states + 25 crank hp & + 25 crank torque with use of stock center muffler for BES 997 092 60SR that is for “exhaust #2”. It also clearly states + 25 crank hp and + 25 crank torque for BES 997 092 60SRS “exhaust # 3”. We have exceeded our claims on exhaust # 3 and if you would like I will post the dyno sheet for our headers and cats using the stock muffler which you will see also exceeded our claims. So the following statement that you made
is incorrect.
I am not sure about all of this hostility but I would like to point a few things…
- GT3Ranger came to us to get a system that would give him what he was personally looking for. How I see it, there are not to many exhaust manufacturers that are willing to work with an individual to give him a custom system. The systems that we built for Ranger were not originally being offered, they were not an off the shelf system. That is the beauty of dealing with FVD and M&M we can make what you want. Think about that for a minute, M&M make exhaust’s for Cup Car’s and RSR’s for Motorsports and they will make a system, a CUSTOM for your GT3 as well!!
- Having said that, maybe it sheds a little more light on the timeline for the dyno runs. The RSR bypass run was done on 11/16/2009. We then asked M&M to produce the new center muffler, we didn’t have the muffler at that time otherwise we would have done the testing the same day. It took time for M&M to make the most powerful design they could and send the muffler to us. Not to mention the Christmas and New Year holiday’s were mixed in at that time. That is why our last pull was made on 1/4/2010.
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#29
[quote=JMD0977;2743420 Man up and move on.
What? Man up? Bucky you have no fukin idea. Ven aca consorte tu insiste ponerte personal? Yo no he dicho nunca nada personal pero tu has insistido tirar el primer gorpe.
And again Ranger, I did not come in this thread claiming any superiority of Akrapovic over FVD.[/quote]
As they say politically, how disingenuos. You came on here asking, probing and wanting to stick your finger in the eye. Fine I don't give $h!t but don't give me the moral high groud crap. BS.
You came on itching and spoiling for a fight. IS THAT IT!
You're tired of my BS well I'm tired of your BS.
Call me kindergarden, your rant was a rant. Let me give you some back. What that M3 must have not been so great after all that money that you dumped it. Or did you get that for free too.
Bucky I am happy with my system but you sure sound very insecure about yours that you must challenge and go on your rants.
Yeah I maybe ranting now but only because I'm tired of trying to play nice with YOU!
You don't like it, you disagree, fine, say so and take a walk.
I'm tired of your crap.
Oh and I'll be waiting for your 50 rwhp gains.
Price for price and gains vs. gains FVD wins. *** titanium what did you save 10 lbs more?
Ha si que sosio, si tu quieres quitarte los guantes, este singao que esta aqui ha estado en el culo del mundo y el infierno. Todovia estoy parado y mira que ha tratado de matarme. Pero de eso no se habla. Estamos claro o ayi que discutirlo mas?
As far as I'm concern this is over mister. (is it?)
Oh almost forgot, hey mr. "I totally agree" skipper where are your dyno results? Your car sounded good but not great, IMO.
Fukin rant over. At least I recognize it as such.
Ranger
What? Man up? Bucky you have no fukin idea. Ven aca consorte tu insiste ponerte personal? Yo no he dicho nunca nada personal pero tu has insistido tirar el primer gorpe.
And again Ranger, I did not come in this thread claiming any superiority of Akrapovic over FVD.[/quote]
As they say politically, how disingenuos. You came on here asking, probing and wanting to stick your finger in the eye. Fine I don't give $h!t but don't give me the moral high groud crap. BS.
You came on itching and spoiling for a fight. IS THAT IT!
You're tired of my BS well I'm tired of your BS.
Call me kindergarden, your rant was a rant. Let me give you some back. What that M3 must have not been so great after all that money that you dumped it. Or did you get that for free too.
Bucky I am happy with my system but you sure sound very insecure about yours that you must challenge and go on your rants.
Yeah I maybe ranting now but only because I'm tired of trying to play nice with YOU!
You don't like it, you disagree, fine, say so and take a walk.
I'm tired of your crap.
Oh and I'll be waiting for your 50 rwhp gains.
Price for price and gains vs. gains FVD wins. *** titanium what did you save 10 lbs more?
Ha si que sosio, si tu quieres quitarte los guantes, este singao que esta aqui ha estado en el culo del mundo y el infierno. Todovia estoy parado y mira que ha tratado de matarme. Pero de eso no se habla. Estamos claro o ayi que discutirlo mas?
As far as I'm concern this is over mister. (is it?)
Oh almost forgot, hey mr. "I totally agree" skipper where are your dyno results? Your car sounded good but not great, IMO.
Fukin rant over. At least I recognize it as such.
Ranger