whats faster? 997.1 turbo or 997.2 gt3
#31
I am aware of the difference between the two, technically dyno's measure torque and they use this formula to extrapolate the hp out of it.
Horsepower = Torque * RPM / 5252
And then acceleration formula is as follows
acceleration = engine_torque x 2 x pi x engine_speed / (velocity x mass)
But I am being technical here, because technically 1 horsepower is translated to 33,000 foot pounds per minute. So basically one lb ft at 5252 rpm translates into one hp. Hp is a way to describe the work of torque over time but its extrapolated in its raw form to be nothing more than torque translated into a different format.
Horsepower = Torque * RPM / 5252
And then acceleration formula is as follows
acceleration = engine_torque x 2 x pi x engine_speed / (velocity x mass)
But I am being technical here, because technically 1 horsepower is translated to 33,000 foot pounds per minute. So basically one lb ft at 5252 rpm translates into one hp. Hp is a way to describe the work of torque over time but its extrapolated in its raw form to be nothing more than torque translated into a different format.
#32
what was done to it?
#33
997.1 GT3
0-100 km/h 4.2 seconds 0-160 km/h 8.9 seconds 0-200 km/h 13.6 seconds 0-300 km/h 47.5 seconds Quarter mile 12.0 seconds
997.1 Turbo
0-100 km/h 3.5 seconds 0-160 km/h 7.8 seconds 0-200 km/h 11.9 seconds 0-300 km/h 40.7 seconds Quarter mile 11.4 seconds
Look at the 0-300km/h time, 997.1 turbo is almost 7 seconds faster than 997.1 GT3 from 0 to 300km/h, image what is 7 seconds like ? I think it is a big difference. If you don't trust me, just go out and try a 0-200 race, you will see the difference very easily. I have raced my friend's stock 997.1 Gt3, and i can easily pull several car length on him starting from about any speed. It totally make sense to both of us. The difference is simply too hard to ignore.
A stock 997.1 turbo would win drag race against a 997.1 GT3 every time. If your turbo is slower, it could be something wrong with the car or the driver.
PS: all datas are from fastestlaps.com
If you are still not convinced, please take a look at this video of stock 997.1 turbo vs 997.1 GT3 RS. The difference is pretty obvious unless you choose to close your eyes and stay blind. I am not trying to make 997.1 Gt3 look slow,and i am simply showing a fact.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hPBeM3UhKyo
Another 997.1 GT3 vs turbo video to show you the obvious difference in straight line . Why it is so hard for some to believe such a simple fact.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2BVhWlpGlE0
0-100 km/h 4.2 seconds 0-160 km/h 8.9 seconds 0-200 km/h 13.6 seconds 0-300 km/h 47.5 seconds Quarter mile 12.0 seconds
997.1 Turbo
0-100 km/h 3.5 seconds 0-160 km/h 7.8 seconds 0-200 km/h 11.9 seconds 0-300 km/h 40.7 seconds Quarter mile 11.4 seconds
Look at the 0-300km/h time, 997.1 turbo is almost 7 seconds faster than 997.1 GT3 from 0 to 300km/h, image what is 7 seconds like ? I think it is a big difference. If you don't trust me, just go out and try a 0-200 race, you will see the difference very easily. I have raced my friend's stock 997.1 Gt3, and i can easily pull several car length on him starting from about any speed. It totally make sense to both of us. The difference is simply too hard to ignore.
A stock 997.1 turbo would win drag race against a 997.1 GT3 every time. If your turbo is slower, it could be something wrong with the car or the driver.
PS: all datas are from fastestlaps.com
If you are still not convinced, please take a look at this video of stock 997.1 turbo vs 997.1 GT3 RS. The difference is pretty obvious unless you choose to close your eyes and stay blind. I am not trying to make 997.1 Gt3 look slow,and i am simply showing a fact.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hPBeM3UhKyo
Another 997.1 GT3 vs turbo video to show you the obvious difference in straight line . Why it is so hard for some to believe such a simple fact.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2BVhWlpGlE0
Last edited by freeman; 04-19-2010 at 03:34 AM.
#34
You guys that think a 997.1 GT3 is actually faster than a 997.1 Turbo in a straight line are kidding yourselves.
The GT3 is very hard to keep in the optimal power band while shifting due to the low torque. Look at how much ground the GT3 is losing on those videos to the Turbo. It just doesn't have the torque to maintain the same acceleration while shifiting.
I don't even know why this is still being debated. The Turbo has faster trap speeds, faster 0-60, faster 1/4 mile.
The GT3 is very hard to keep in the optimal power band while shifting due to the low torque. Look at how much ground the GT3 is losing on those videos to the Turbo. It just doesn't have the torque to maintain the same acceleration while shifiting.
I don't even know why this is still being debated. The Turbo has faster trap speeds, faster 0-60, faster 1/4 mile.
#36
GT3 wouldn't know which way the PDK Turbo went.
though... that's true for almost any car, short of an LP560 or 458. The PDK Turbo is unhealthily fast
though... that's true for almost any car, short of an LP560 or 458. The PDK Turbo is unhealthily fast
#38
Correct me if I am wrong but the 2010 GT3 has 435hp and the 997.1 GT3 has 415... yet the 997.1 can't keep the 997.1 turbo in sight and the 997.2 GT3 run side by side with the 997.1 turbo. Surely 20hp can't be that much of a difference. Am I missing something here?
#41
Upgrades, What and where on the GT3?
sorry, but both my turbo (07) and my gt3 (2010) are nowhere near stock. both have ecu programs and more. i so totally love the gt3 over the turbo for any kind of driving, track, street or canyon carving. so much more responsive to any inputs.
if i had a long trip, i would have to at least consider driving the turbo, but i probably would not.
if i had a long trip, i would have to at least consider driving the turbo, but i probably would not.
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