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Old 02-02-2005 | 09:20 PM
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In karting, I've only seen fast guys that barely move their hands. And in karting, the managing of slip angles is critical, due perhaps to the fact that karts have such little perimeter weighting, and they rotate very abruptly and very fast.
actually the kid that said this to me was one of the employees at K1 who i believe has one of if not the fastest times!
 
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Old 02-02-2005 | 09:25 PM
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Are you sure he wasn't throwing you off so you don't de-throne him?

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Hey, let's go up there to K1 and try it out!
 

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Old 02-02-2005 | 09:26 PM
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Are you sure he wasn't throwing you off so you don't de-throne him?
lol, he has nothing to worry about with me :-)
 
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Old 02-02-2005 | 10:19 PM
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Earnhardt Jr. saws like a mf, he seems to do all right!
 
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Old 02-02-2005 | 11:50 PM
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He's clearly trying to upset the balance of the car in the vids to determine its limits and predictablity. Or he's just a crazy a$$.
 
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Old 02-03-2005 | 05:44 AM
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Paul did you just get the M3 now? I saw the lightweight/clubsport look at the dealer last week very very nice...
 
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Old 02-03-2005 | 07:06 AM
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Thanks Marc- I found a used 2005 stripper M3 w/the comp package and xenons as the only options. 2 weeks old and 400 miles on the clock and I got a great deal on it. No accidents or issues at all. My plan is to turn it into a weekend racer with roll bar, race seats, coilvers, and some weight removal.
 
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Old 02-03-2005 | 07:38 AM
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Thats really a great track car I have always liked the M3, I had a 1998 4 door and loved it. I am selling the C55 today, and my company is picking up a Jetta GLI 2005 Ltd edition 18" BBS, Recaros, Red Calipers a neat car for 24k that will be mine to drive. I am ordering the new M3. I don't feel like another Porsche and the 997 styling in the back does nothing for me. I really don't like the MB that much it is a little boring IMHO.

PS I drove the EVO what a machine this is but I don't think I can get the company to go for the lease it is not a good rate. Anyway this way I will have 2 cars by the middle of next year.
 
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Old 02-03-2005 | 10:47 AM
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Cool. That Jetta will be a blast to drive, it's quite a deal for the $$...
 
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Old 02-03-2005 | 02:21 PM
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Here is a better example in a m3gtr

http://www.s87612860.onlinehome.us/p...urburgring.wmv

Yes it is front engine but the technique employed with inputs is nice and smooth instead of contant sawing and correction
 
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Old 02-03-2005 | 06:04 PM
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We got it this afternoon it is alot of fun, handles nice and has a 6 speed ....

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Cool. That Jetta will be a blast to drive, it's quite a deal for the $$...
 
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Old 02-03-2005 | 07:19 PM
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This has been getting a lot of discussion lately. Sawing versus smoothness. Here's the short version. Ordinarily, when we're driving at speed, we're trying to be as smooth as possible. In the ideal corner, you move the steering wheel to the angle you need to make the turn, hold it all the way round, then release gently to 12 o'clock as you apply power equally gently.

Nice theory.

As you get to the raggedy edge of the friction circle, minute changes in slip angle as the car moves slightly on its suspension (changing the instantaneous max. force that tire is capable of), the track surface not being 100% uniform, and a bunch ov other small factors occur, necessitating small corrections. For most of us, we notice the slide later, and have to correct more aggressively, losing time. The best of the best catch the car several times per corner, and are faster.

This is the explanation I've heard, but it seems to me that something else is going on. We've probably all seen the trace of Schumacher's steering inputs vs Johnny Herberts, and how S saws, and H is much smoother. What I notice though, is that S appeared to be sawing somewhat rhythmically, seemingly intentionally. It seemed proactive, rather than reactive.

Anyone more knowledgable have a definitive answer?
 
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Old 02-07-2005 | 05:03 PM
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for those of you who think this guy jerks the wheel too much, a gt3 is a handfull. This guy in my opinion is a awesome driver.
 
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Old 02-07-2005 | 06:00 PM
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Ruben is correct he has a GT3 and he can drive...
 
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Old 02-07-2005 | 09:11 PM
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Max is a good driver, and those are some tough tracks as well.
 


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