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a little less as 2:00 minutes but they won't let you ring it out, they lead you around the track, and hold you back. The cars are US spec cars with only 3 point belts, no harness and no rollbar. So I understood, but it would have been nice to.......................
 
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a little less as 2:00 minutes but they won't let you ring it out, they lead you around the track, and hold you back. The cars are US spec cars with only 3 point belts, no harness and no rollbar. So I understood, but it would have been nice to.......................
I would be curious to know how fast a good amateur driver could go around this track with it (without restrictions). A GT3 RS MK2 can do it at 1m45s. I guess a GT2 RS would do almost the same lap times than a Cup car... The Ferrari mechanics there say that the car is a huge improvement over the F430. More technology advance taken from F1 than an improvements from the F430 apparently.

Ferrari are much easier to drive on a track (with paddle shift, etc.) than a Porsche, but they are more difficult to drive really fast. Unfortunately with their higher price tag they attract more posers than Porsche. Very often we see slow drivers in F430 Challenge locally. Not that they have no skills but they don't invest the required seat time to be fast.

Who was your coach at the school there ? They are really cool guys, especially the Dumoulin brothers ! Did you have the chance to try the Scuderia also ?
 
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Great comments. The 458 is definitely easier to drive than the Scud around that track with the technological improvements over the Scud. Yes they had 4 Scuds and 4 458 (no fires luckily), and 1 challenge Scud. I've since traded my 2005 430 F1 for a 2008 Scud, have yet to take delivery, this Friday I hope. It was much more race car feel to it, than the 458, but not an apples for apples. I can't wait for the 458 Scud version. That said, I race Spec Miata in NASA, so it's a totally different line through the corners, once acquainted I probably could get the cars into the mid to low 50's. They also had a Chicane at the end of the back straight which really slowed the times, and of course was safer too, for those that don't race. I am not sure of the instructors names but if you send me a PM I will send you a link to my SmugMug photos from the event. John
 
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I was thinking about the new Mclaren MP4-12C, but am concerned about it catching fire. A completely new design mid engine car with two turbo chargers. There has to be a lot of heat in there surrounded by all that composite material. Are turbo rear engine cars able to dissipate heat better than mid engine cars? What do you guys think? The GT2 RS is at least a tried and true design.
 
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not sure about that, I agree Porsche has the technology down pat. I got my GT2RS ordered today. Black on black with silver wheels. Full Carbon package. Feb/Mar Delivery
 
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I was thinking about the new Mclaren MP4-12C, but am concerned about it catching fire. A completely new design mid engine car with two turbo chargers. There has to be a lot of heat in there surrounded by all that composite material. Are turbo rear engine cars able to dissipate heat better than mid engine cars? What do you guys think? The GT2 RS is at least a tried and true design.
Do you know of any cars catching fire because of the turbo? I don't. I'm not saying it has never happened, but I've never heard of it being an issue. The only rear-engine turbo car produced today is the 911. There are a few turbocharged mid-engine cars, but I can't imagine the turbo would pose more of a problem than a hot exhaust manifold in the engine compartment.
 
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Great comments. The 458 is definitely easier to drive than the Scud around that track with the technological improvements over the Scud. Yes they had 4 Scuds and 4 458 (no fires luckily), and 1 challenge Scud. I've since traded my 2005 430 F1 for a 2008 Scud, have yet to take delivery, this Friday I hope. It was much more race car feel to it, than the 458, but not an apples for apples. I can't wait for the 458 Scud version. That said, I race Spec Miata in NASA, so it's a totally different line through the corners, once acquainted I probably could get the cars into the mid to low 50's. They also had a Chicane at the end of the back straight which really slowed the times, and of course was safer too, for those that don't race. I am not sure of the instructors names but if you send me a PM I will send you a link to my SmugMug photos from the event. John
They do that chicane because some "students" either would not brake because they think the car with all the electronic controls would save them anyway or because they just don't care and would tell them to call their accountant to pay for the damages...

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I was just reading the latest C&D and the GT2 will do 0-186 MPH in 4.1 seconds. That is freakin fast.
 
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I was just reading the latest C&D and the GT2 will do 0-186 MPH in 4.1 seconds. That is freakin fast.
You might consider reading it again.
 
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Fast but not that fast

I think only the space shuttle goes from 0 to 186 in 4.1 seconds............vroooom
 
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Sorry about that guys. I'll type the ad as I misread it.

"It's not about top speed,"insists project manager Andreas Preuninger, although the GT2RS will do a gearing-limited 206MPG, 192 of which it deploys during what must be a wonderfully terrifying max-attack ring lap. Acceleration to 60 MPH is also secondary -Porsche would rather quote the claimed 4.1 - second improvement from 0 to 300km/h (186 MPH) instead - but should improve by a couple of tenths, to the mid threes, and continues to be aided by a launch control system.

The shuttle is nice :-).
 

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Sorry about that guys. All type the ad as I misread it.

"It's not about top speed,"insists project manager Andreas Preuninger, although the GT2RS will do a gearing-limited 206MPG, 192 of which it deploys during what must be a wonderfully terrifying max-attack ring lap. Acceleration to 60 MPH is also secondary -Porsche would rather quote the claimed 4.1 - second improvement from 0 to 300km/h (186 MPH) instead - but should improve by a couple of tenths, to the mid threes, and continues to be aided by a launch control system.

The shuttle is nice :-).
Funny. It ain't possible.
 
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I don't disagree. None the less, it's a great article in the October edition of Car and Driver. They also rated the Porsche Spyder as the best handling car in America - another cool article.
 
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I don't disagree. None the less, it's a great article in the October edition of Car and Driver. They also rated the Porsche Spyder as the best handling car in America - another cool article.
I would buy 100 mph, but not 186. If it's that fast, they will soon call it the widowmaker again. No human can control that speed in 4 secs. I'm not really sure the space shuttle can hit that speed in 4 secs. Wonder what the G's would be?
 


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