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Old 03-26-2005 | 08:07 PM
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Carrera GT at Pioneer Centres for sale (San Diego)

Stopped by to get a few parts for my wheels and they have an "extra" GT on the showroom floor.

Said they sold one, had 6 on order and this was "extra"

I believe it was Silver Metallic. But the tears of be not being able to afford even the tires where blurring my vision....

Figured someone may be interested.

www.pioneerporsche.com

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Old 03-26-2005 | 08:37 PM
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Re: Carrera GT at Pioneer Centres for sale (San Diego)

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Stopped by to get a few parts for my wheels and they have an "extra" GT on the showroom floor.

Said they sold one, had 6 on order and this was "extra"

I believe it was Silver Metallic. But the tears of be not being able to afford even the tires where blurring my vision....

Figured someone may be interested.

www.pioneerporsche.com

(I have no relation to their company whatsoever)
the "extra" ones i think stem from the fact they are not making '06s for the U.S. afterall owing to an airbag rule and have been accelerating '06 production into '05.
 
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Old 03-26-2005 | 08:54 PM
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Yeah I thought it was pretty odd that a salesman refered to the car as an "extra" car. Like why not call someone on the list who had ordered a GT and offer it to them? Unless the 6 he said were ordered had very specific charateristics....

So ben. lj, how does that bit of history you have drive? Can you actually put in into words?

 
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Old 03-26-2005 | 09:19 PM
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So ben. lj, how does that bit of history you have drive? Can you actually put in into words?

it's the only car that has ever given me cotton mouth!
 
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Old 03-26-2005 | 10:27 PM
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Originally posted by ben, lj
it's the only car that has ever given me cotton mouth!
That's badass... I know the feeling....(the cotton mouth part)

Congrats on the car.

If you are ever in the SD area, and want to go fishing, let me know.

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Old 03-27-2005 | 09:42 AM
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I was told the CGT sitting in the front showroom at Pioneer in SD was ordered by a customer who could not take delivery of the car due to financial reasons. I was interested in the car but not the $100k hit I'll take driving it off the lot!
I'm not a big fan of silver anyway
 
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Old 03-27-2005 | 09:56 AM
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Originally posted by psychoflex
I was told the CGT sitting in the front showroom at Pioneer in SD was ordered by a customer who could not take delivery of the car due to financial reasons. I was interested in the car but not the $100k hit I'll take driving it off the lot!
I'm not a big fan of silver anyway
Interesting....
 
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Old 03-27-2005 | 10:00 AM
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Originally posted by psychoflex
I was interested in the car but not the $100k hit I'll take driving it off the lot!
Well , as a percentage of MSRP, it's not as bad as the same $80-100K hit when you drive off with a brand new CL65 or 575M .
 
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Old 03-27-2005 | 01:24 PM
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Originally posted by psychoflex
I was interested in the car but not the $100k hit I'll take driving it off the lot!
if you're not planning to keep it (ie: worried about a $100k hit), then pay the right price for one (ie: $410k ishn - though les quam is having quite a hard time finding a dealer willing to cut a new one loose for that), lease it to avoid sales tax, and you should be fine. there will be no 06s and once the 05s (and unsold 04s) are in the hands of keepers, values will stabilize. in addition, have you done the math on euro vs. dollar lately as to just how fantastic a deal it is for euro buyers to soak up US cars? those paying $400k+ for a car are smart enough to play arb. as well, the cars here have 4 yr warranties. even if they pay labor for the last 2 years of the 4 (ie: euro warranty), they still get an extra 2 on parts.
 
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Old 03-27-2005 | 02:06 PM
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It's not that I wouldn't be planning to keep it. I'm a very patient person and can wait til the right time to buy. If you can pick the car up for under sticker in the showroom compared to $50k+ above sticker for a 430, that's not a good sign. I think within the next year prices will come down to at least the mid-300's regardless of Euro rate. Domestic rates are rising anyway which will strengthen the $. Aren't there import taxes in the EU for bringing in a foreign bought car? That would make any arb opp less attractive.

In the meantime, I've got a '05 CT coming next month and would like to pick up a GT3 in the near future for the track. I've got to decide on a street car with new suspension(JRZ's) ,fuel cell, and cage or a GT3cup. Any suggestions are appreciated
 
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Old 03-27-2005 | 09:58 PM
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Get a Cup for a Track Car... Dont waste your time trying to build one( .......... Its not worth It.. And a converted street car is still just that a converted street car...

I can attest to Ben's "Cotton Mouth" experiance in the CGT... But my experiance is more of the wobbly knees thing LOLOL... The CGT is like no other experiance everytime I drive it... Its like falling in love with the hottest , smartest, sexiest, woman all over again........... and again , and again , and again and again.. See where this is going
Its the type of car that no matter who you are , what you drive , fly or navigate you give that car respect...............


Hope that helps................
 
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Old 03-27-2005 | 10:12 PM
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Originally posted by BentleyNPB
Get a Cup for a Track Car... Dont waste your time trying to build one( .......... Its not worth It.. And a converted street car is still just that a converted street car...

I can attest to Ben's "Cotton Mouth" experiance in the CGT... But my experiance is more of the wobbly knees thing LOLOL... The CGT is like no other experiance everytime I drive it... Its like falling in love with the hottest , smartest, sexiest, woman all over again........... and again , and again , and again and again.. See where this is going
Its the type of car that no matter who you are , what you drive , fly or navigate you give that car respect...............


Hope that helps................
Well said.

Not have logged many hours in exotics, its pretty exciting to hear you guys describe the ride.

Top cars I have driven would be the new S4, 540ia, and probably my favorite car being a stock 1997 TT Supra...

My most exciting ride was in my close friend Pantera GT5-S

Thanks for the feedback
 
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Thanks for the advice Fabryce. Love the way you described the CGT I need to take that pretty lady out on a date!
 
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Bentley and Ben are correct in their descriptions. I'll add that on my drives this past weekend I went to 2 car dealers (Porsche and Mercedes), nothing but love and the utmost respect for this phenomenal piece of automotive history from true enthusiast. Great conversations with real "car guys" (& prospective customers of the noted brands).

It's a real thrill everytime the ignition if fired up.I have to give Walter Rorhl his props for keeping the visceral development (& handling) on point.

As stated many times on this and other forums "cars are not investments". Enjoy the ride (of life).
 
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