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Bought a CGT from Pioneer Centres.

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Old 04-01-2005 | 07:08 PM
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Bought a CGT from Pioneer Centres.

I just thought I would share my CGT experience.

Ben hooked me up with Chris Huck at Pioneer for the purchase of my 05 CGT. I was most impressed with Chris's knowledge and enthusiasm with Porsche's and the CGT.
Chris was utterly professional as was everyone at Pioneer. It took about two minutes to make a deal and I drove down the next day for pick up.

Upon arrival Chris and the Pioneer staff got me through the paper work process in record time and treated me like I was a longtime customer not a first time buyer at Pioneer.

The car was immaculate and ready for delivery.

Everyone needs to know that every single piece of garbage that has been written or said about this car is totally inaccurate. The clutch issue simply does not exist. It feels like the clutch on every 600HP car I have ever driven. At 600 HP the clutch is going to be heavy. But I drove it around Vegas traffic all day today without a single stall. You can use the Porsche method or a method one would use on any extreme high HP car. If you have less experience it would take no more than an hour to be completely comfortable with the clutch.

As a matter of fact if I had not read about any of the horror stories associated with the CGT clutch I would not have given it a second thought. It is what I would have expected. The car is a pleasure in traffic no problems what so ever. Porsche must be completely baffled at all the bad press this car got.

The ride height is low and requires one to pay attention. But it got over every speed bump in my subdivision and up a steep angle into a driveway. It just takes patience and these things must be traversed SLOWLY. But it is not abnormal for a car such as this.

The car is simply the finest car I have ever driven which includes an F 50 and my two GT2s. I have about 35 cars now and after buying the CGT 25 are for sale because this is the only car I would want to drive. Everthing else is simply inferior.

Porsche has confirmed that 2005 is the last model year for the North American CGT due to the 2006 cars not being able to meet the new airbag reqiuriements. If you can figure out how to swing one one it is simply better than any car being built today. The finest all around car on this planet. IMHO

My thanks to Ben and Chris. And Ben thanks for the ride of a lifetime in your CGT.
 

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Old 04-01-2005 | 08:10 PM
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It was great finally meeting you face to face Les and I'm thrilled to see one of these masterpieces being appreciated for the marvel it is.
 
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Old 04-01-2005 | 08:21 PM
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Congratulations on your purchase, please post some photos!!
 
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Wow, that was a glowing report. It makes me want to negotiate with an owner now to buy theirs when they no longer want it.
 
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Old 04-01-2005 | 08:47 PM
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Re: Bought a CGT from Pioneer Centres.

Originally posted by Les Quam
Porsche has confirmed that 2005 is the last model year for the North American CGT due to the 2006 cars not being able to meet the new airbag reqiuriements.
Les,

Congratulations on your outstanding purchase!

I had a conversation with my dealer yesterday and I specifically asked him about the MY 2006 delivery issue.

He told me that the cars he has on order with build dates in 2006 are still in the computer as scheduled for completion in calander 2006.

He said at one time (last November) , PCNA was telling him that cars would be delivered earlier because of an improvement in production efficiency. They have recently not said any more about it.

He also said that dealers were required to firm up their MY2006 CGT orders but that they were still able to be changed as to color, options, etc..

Just one more data point.

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Old 04-01-2005 | 09:49 PM
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Mike,
On Tuesday I was able to view an email from our regional Porsche rep to my local dealer. The email stated that 2005 was the last model year for NA. It was quite clear.

It is my understanding the owner of my local and only Vegas Porsche dealership who wanted an 06 CGT for himself called whomever Porsche dealer owners of the world call on such matters and was given confirmation on the email that for NA 2005 is the last model year.

Pioneer also has been told by it's zone regional rep that 2005 is the last year. But the rep is also the same rep who told me 04 was the last year for the 996 GT2 so who knows.
 
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Re: Bought a CGT from Pioneer Centres.

Originally posted by Les Quam
The clutch issue simply does not exist. It feels like the clutch on every 600HP car I have ever driven. At 600 HP the clutch is going to be heavy. But I drove it around Vegas traffic all day today without a single stall. You can use the Porsche method or a method one would use on any extreme high HP car. If you have less experience it would take no more than an hour to be completely comfortable with the clutch.
Speaking of CGT clutches, a local dealer told me that the guy who bought the first one from them burned through the clutch in 4k miles. Cost was $20k to replace. He subsequently sold the car.
 
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Old 04-01-2005 | 10:34 PM
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Les, i am glad to hear of your CGT experience, congrats. Allow me to be the first in line to take the measly GT2 off your hands.
 
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Re: Re: Bought a CGT from Pioneer Centres.

Originally posted by Holger B
Speaking of CGT clutches, a local dealer told me that the guy who bought the first one from them burned through the clutch in 4k miles. Cost was $20k to replace. He subsequently sold the car.
actually, he sold the car after 4k miles (i drove his car before he sold it) and the next owner had it replaced under warranty. i wouldn't say the owner "burned through the clutch". he is an avid enthusiast who has had more supercars than 99% of those on this board. he tracks as often as the most avid trackers on this board as well. he sold the car because the clutch sucked (perhaps it was defective because i thought it sucked too but have no problem with mine), ride height was not condusive to the streets and hills in your area, and the gear noise to 2100 RPM got on his nerves.
 
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clutch under warranty, that's a first!
 
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Congratulations on your purchase, please post some photos!!
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Kind of curious, since I've seen a couple of people mention the ride height, is the underbody well protected or are there CF panels down there? I was looking at Noel Lee's closely when it was parked down the street a while ago, and it didn't strike me as much lower than your average lowered P-car.

Congrats Les, you guys make me envious! Enjoy in good health!
 
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The underbody is comprised of three CF panels: a front, middle, and rear (seen estimates for the three ranging from $45 to $75k!).
 
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The underbody is comprised of three CF panels: a front, middle, and rear (seen estimates for the three ranging from $45 to $75k!).
Ouch, and I wince when I scrape on the ocassional steep driveway! So is it really that low, or is there just more focus now on the ride height since the scraping can be so costly?

Porsche has a raising kit coming out soon, right?
 


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