R.I.P. Ryan Dunn from Jackass
#61
RIP? Really?
He didn't live in peace. He lived full tilt on the edge of the edge. All the "Jackasses" lived like they had a death wish. Why else would someone do what they did to themselves. Think what you want, I'll think he was shYte faced like he was most of the time. I feel sorry for the passenger that was KILLED by the stupid driver.
He didn't live in peace. He lived full tilt on the edge of the edge. All the "Jackasses" lived like they had a death wish. Why else would someone do what they did to themselves. Think what you want, I'll think he was shYte faced like he was most of the time. I feel sorry for the passenger that was KILLED by the stupid driver.
That why they do what they do!
I'm not a Jackass Fan, But I am a Porsche Fan...
unless they were in a Hummer H1, nothing could have saved them in this crash, drinking or not.
RIP: Porsche Lover
#62
Biased? One person has experience with a tragedy and see's this as just another senseless tragedy. Others see just the loss of their weekly giggles and how that's just going to bum them out. Seems like one bias against another bias.
I'll wait for the passenger's family to express joy that if he had to go, its best he went like this, way before his time. After all, Mr. Jackass and him must have been having a great time before the final second or two.
Smokers don't quit while they have society helping them excuse it.
Drunk drivers don't stop for the same reasons.
They'd both be alive if people stopped thinking they were cool and told them they were asshats and wrestled the keys away from them and called them a cab.
Jim
I'll wait for the passenger's family to express joy that if he had to go, its best he went like this, way before his time. After all, Mr. Jackass and him must have been having a great time before the final second or two.
Smokers don't quit while they have society helping them excuse it.
Drunk drivers don't stop for the same reasons.
They'd both be alive if people stopped thinking they were cool and told them they were asshats and wrestled the keys away from them and called them a cab.
Jim
#63
I don't think anyone is "bummed out at the loss of weekly giggles", moreover paying respect to the dead. Your lack of tact isn't saving anyone, but moreover causing pain to the freinds and family that suffered a great loss. Your lack of compassion isn't teaching any sort of positive behavior. Ryan didn't jump in the car intending to kill himself and his passenger and we've all made mistakes. I'm sure you've exceeded the speed limit on more than one occasion and if the circumstances had been right maybe a tire would have blown out and you'd have careened off a cliff.
It's a tragedy, have some respect for familes at the very least you *******.
It's a tragedy, have some respect for familes at the very least you *******.
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#64
I don't think anyone is "bummed out at the loss of weekly giggles", moreover paying respect to the dead. Your lack of tact isn't saving anyone, but moreover causing pain to the freinds and family that suffered a great loss. Your lack of compassion isn't teaching any sort of positive behavior. Ryan didn't jump in the car intending to kill himself and his passenger and we've all made mistakes. I'm sure you've exceeded the speed limit on more than one occasion and if the circumstances had been right maybe a tire would have blown out and you'd have careened off a cliff.
It's a tragedy, have some respect for familes at the very least you *******.
It's a tragedy, have some respect for familes at the very least you *******.
There's a few places I drive 130mph. Streets of Willow, Buttonwillow, Laguna, etc. I can't really remember any of these having a bar on pit road. And I don't think any of these places would like for me to spend 3 hours of the morning lap sessions downing 6 beers and ****tails before hitting the hot track. And if I did that and went out on the track with one of my buddies and we stuffed ourselves into a wall I doubt anyone would be lamenting my departure from the land of the living.
Its a tragedy these people are dead. And if they'd killed themselves by misjudging the road while entering a hairpin at 40-50, I'd see things differently.
Doing 130 on a public road, in curves, at night, half drunk or worse is inexcusable. And people need to condemn that strongly and right when it happens. He drive to the bar in that car. He knew he was going to drive away too. Yet he started drinking. At what point while he was drinking those 6 drinks did he lose any ability to think that through?
So I may be a *******. But I'm not a MURDERER. And I'm more than ok with that.
#65
^again, you should wait till the toxoligy reports before saying he was sloshed, you assume he was, until the reports are out you are talking out your ***.
he is guilty of one thing, speeding. you might as well leave this forum now because 99% of the people on this forum speeds every day.
he is guilty of one thing, speeding. you might as well leave this forum now because 99% of the people on this forum speeds every day.
#66
I don't need to wait for toxicology. He was drinking before he was driving. I don't think there's a minimum level for that being a bad idea. Your reflexes and judgement go downhill on the first ounce and every one after that. There's no level of drinking that has no effect on you. There's just a point where you become incapacitated at any speed.
If he wasn't drinking or drunk I'd think even LESS of him because then he is a dumbass instead of a jackass.
At least alcohol gives some slight excuse of losing judgement.
Jim
If he wasn't drinking or drunk I'd think even LESS of him because then he is a dumbass instead of a jackass.
At least alcohol gives some slight excuse of losing judgement.
Jim
#67
^you should go talk to a shrink
#68
Will you go with me? I'll drive. We can stop for drinks on the way.
Jim
Jim
#69
#70
Someone else doesn't understand irony.
Jim
Jim
#71
Anyway guys, this has been fun but I have to get to the office by 9. I'm not as young as I used to be. Its going to take me some time to pound down a six pack before I have to hit the road. Wish me luck!
Jim
Jim
#72
Yes...I am biased...am I not entitled to an opinion? I retracted my statement because it was somewhat inflammatory, and knew that it would draw such a response.
I edited my post because I thought it was inappropriate in this setting. So you are criticizing me about something that I retracted. While I was momentarily on a soap box, I stepped down and edited my post so not to offend others. Rather than leaving inflammatory comments, I decided to exercise restraint, initially by editing my post 4 times, then finally completely changing it.
It is difficult to be a moderator and still participate in a forum. When I first posted, I realized that this thread was slowly going off topic, and elected to retract my statement because it was inflammatory. It appears that others still feel that insulting other members here is the best approach.
But if it is seen that a moderator participating in a discussion such as this is inappropriate, I will refrain from posting.
I edited my post because I thought it was inappropriate in this setting. So you are criticizing me about something that I retracted. While I was momentarily on a soap box, I stepped down and edited my post so not to offend others. Rather than leaving inflammatory comments, I decided to exercise restraint, initially by editing my post 4 times, then finally completely changing it.
It is difficult to be a moderator and still participate in a forum. When I first posted, I realized that this thread was slowly going off topic, and elected to retract my statement because it was inflammatory. It appears that others still feel that insulting other members here is the best approach.
But if it is seen that a moderator participating in a discussion such as this is inappropriate, I will refrain from posting.
class....nothin but class bob........
#73
I'm not sure that the "everybody's doing it" argument is accurate here. There's a difference between doing 80, or even 90, on a freeway and doing 130 on a twisty back road with poor lighting and a passenger. (Even if they were completely sober, which we know is not the case. Legally drunk or not.) I've been deep into the triple digits, alone, on a straight-shot on the highway when there was no traffic very late at night, and looking back on it I know that it was stupid. I would never have done that with a passenger in the car, though. (Again, even if completely sober.) I agree that 99% of this forum speeds every day, but I'd argue that the location, extent, and the number of innocent parties along for the ride in the scenarios are far from identical. May these guys truly RIP, and I do feel badly for the families as they are the ones that truly suffer. It was all over for the guys in the car within seconds, but the families will be dealing with this for years.
#74
you really sound like you could use a drinking habit, probably be a heck of a lot nicer person
#75
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