Originally Posted by denversteve

And there is the rub. You will only retain the value of a highly collectable by buying it and keeping it pristine with extremely low miles. Any car that will maintain it's value will be ultra-rare and extremely expensive upon purchase. No car driven daily will hold any collector value - at least for 20 years or so. So if you have to ask how much........... I would advise buying a car that you 1) can afford to pay cash for, 2) really like and enjoy driving, 3) decide whether you want a car because you want to look at it or drive it. Cars don't appreciate and very few (very, very few) hold their values. Even rare Bentley's and Rolls Royces depreciate by half in very short order.

Originally Posted by denversteve

And there is the rub. You will only retain the value of a highly collectable by buying it and keeping it pristine with extremely low miles. Any car that will maintain it's value will be ultra-rare and extremely expensive upon purchase. No car driven daily will hold any collector value - at least for 20 years or so. So if you have to ask how much........... I would advise buying a car that you 1) can afford to pay cash for, 2) really like and enjoy driving, 3) decide whether you want a car because you want to look at it or drive it. Cars don't appreciate and very few (very, very few) hold their values. Even rare Bentley's and Rolls Royces depreciate by half in very short order.

Originally Posted by ScottKelly911

Based on the info you've given us (want a car that can be daily driven and has rarity/investment value), I say take a good hard look to see if you could stretch the funds just slightly and get a 997.1 GT3RS. The 997.1 is the car that brought back the RS Moniker to the Porsche nameplate (ROW cars, not counting the VERY rare, not available in the US 996RS). Among automobile historians/enthusiasts and Porsche Purists, this car was the closest in spirit to the original Deified Carrera RS that Porsche had put to the 911 model. It's also the very first water-cooled 911 to carry the RS Badge of Honor (to us here in the US). I know beauty is only skin deep, but the factory thought enough of this car to give it the same graphic treatment, at least in spirit, that the original Carrera RS wore to make sure that it's ancestry is prominent and acknowledged. The 997.2 GT3 does carry the newer tail light treatment which I agree does look A LOT better, but you could always do the conversion and still retain the stock pieces incase you ever want to sell the vehicle in it's original form. The motor also got a bump in HP. However, as we all know, VERY few of us could truly exploit the additional power of the 997.2 over the 997.1 and it is probably realistically only appreciated on the track. That being said, the 997.2 GT3 is still quite a rare and beautiful car. To add more confusion to your dilemna, the 997.2 GT3 in my understanding is actually quite rare itself and enjoyed the same upgrades for the most part with the exception of widebody and rear wing. So years down the road, the 997.2 GT3 may be looked upon as a gem in the rough since it kind of got lost in the wake of the 997.2 GT3RS as it was ballyhoo'd upon by automotive journalists throughout the literary world. I guess what I'm saying...it's a beautiful problem to have, what ever decision you choose, don't look back and question whether or not you made the right choice because the proverbial grass is always greener on the other side, but in this case the grass is green on both sides.

BTW, my friend purchased a 997.1 GT3RS last month and has had a grin etched into his face that could only be removed with the help of modern medicine. Enjoy and good luck!

Originally Posted by denversteve

The only way to minimize depreciation is to limit availability AND keep demand up..

Originally Posted by ScottKelly911

Based on the info you've given us (want a car that can be daily driven and has rarity/investment value), I say take a good hard look to see if you could stretch the funds just slightly and get a 997.1 GT3RS. The 997.1 is the car that brought back the RS Moniker to the Porsche nameplate (ROW cars, not counting the VERY rare, not available in the US 996RS). Among automobile historians/enthusiasts and Porsche Purists, this car was the closest in spirit to the original Deified Carrera RS that Porsche had put to the 911 model. It's also the very first water-cooled 911 to carry the RS Badge of Honor (to us here in the US). I know beauty is only skin deep, but the factory thought enough of this car to give it the same graphic treatment, at least in spirit, that the original Carrera RS wore to make sure that it's ancestry is prominent and acknowledged. The 997.2 GT3 does carry the newer tail light treatment which I agree does look A LOT better, but you could always do the conversion and still retain the stock pieces incase you ever want to sell the vehicle in it's original form. The motor also got a bump in HP. However, as we all know, VERY few of us could truly exploit the additional power of the 997.2 over the 997.1 and it is probably realistically only appreciated on the track. That being said, the 997.2 GT3 is still quite a rare and beautiful car. To add more confusion to your dilemna, the 997.2 GT3 in my understanding is actually quite rare itself and enjoyed the same upgrades for the most part with the exception of widebody and rear wing. So years down the road, the 997.2 GT3 may be looked upon as a gem in the rough since it kind of got lost in the wake of the 997.2 GT3RS as it was ballyhoo'd upon by automotive journalists throughout the literary world. I guess what I'm saying...it's a beautiful problem to have, what ever decision you choose, don't look back and question whether or not you made the right choice because the proverbial grass is always greener on the other side, but in this case the grass is green on both sides.

BTW, my friend purchased a 997.1 GT3RS last month and has had a grin etched into his face that could only be removed with the help of modern medicine. Enjoy and good luck!

Originally Posted by rnp614

I think the most interesting thing will be is the 991 GT3 going to be PDK only or continue onward with a 7 speed 3-pedal.

Originally Posted by jnkk1

Don't you think that with the introduction of the 991 GT3 that the value of the previous generation (7.1, 7.2) GT3's will continue to depreciate especailly if they build the car with a 7 speed. I sure hope so, since this will be my next P-car.