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Old 05-02-2012 | 09:20 AM
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GT3 future?

Will the 997.2 GT3 be rare in the future? Or will the 997.2 GT3 be the same as a 991 gt3? (obviosuly body is different but I meant motor wise) I'm only interested in purchasing cars that have or will have some rarity behind it. I have a 996 gt2 on the way. I chose it because it's the first water cooled gt2. I just wanted to know if the 7.2 GT3 will have any significant meaning in the future.


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I think the new GT3 might not have the Mezger engine in it, so that would help the 7.2 GT3's status as the last of that line. By this I mean not only the regular 7.2 GT3 but also the GT3 RS and 4.0 RS, of course.
 
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I would shoot for the 997.2 GT3 RS 4.0. There were only 600 produced world wide, so there is your rarity factor. There is nothing quite like a 4.0...
 
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Originally Posted by ECS Tuning - Porsche
I would shoot for the 997.2 GT3 RS 4.0. There were only 600 produced world wide, so there is your rarity factor. There is nothing quite like a 4.0...
Until the 991 GT3 has about 50 more HP than the 4.0, then people will say,"4.what?"
 
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If you want rare get the 4.0 or the speedster. Speedster is even more rare. I think its way too much money for what it is and would take and RS 4.0 over it anyday but if you want rare then the speedster is your answer.
 
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Until the 991 GT3 has about 50 more HP than the 4.0, then people will say,"4.what?"
I don't see anyone saying that about the 2.7RS or even the RS America. The RS 4.0 is the best of the best right now, and it will always be viewed as that. The car will continue to increase in value, especially due to it's rarity.

Go drive one...seriously!
 
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I love the 4.0 but at the same time I can't afford it and it doesn't seem like you can drive it daily lol. That's why I asked about the 7.2. I'm looking for a non RS and the 7.2 looks so much better than the 7.1. I just don't want to buy a car that will just be another Porsche in the future. I understand it's a GT3 and it's not your ordinary 911 but you guys know what I mean. I would've really liked to have owned a mk1 996 gt3 but those are a pain in the *** and I really don't want to have 2 996 models. So keep the advice and opinions coming guys. It's greatly appreciated.
 
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Originally Posted by bennnz0
I love the 4.0 but at the same time I can't afford it and it doesn't seem like you can drive it daily lol. That's why I asked about the 7.2. I'm looking for a non RS and the 7.2 looks so much better than the 7.1. I just don't want to buy a car that will just be another Porsche in the future. I understand it's a GT3 and it's not your ordinary 911 but you guys know what I mean. I would've really liked to have owned a mk1 996 gt3 but those are a pain in the *** and I really don't want to have 2 996 models. So keep the advice and opinions coming guys. It's greatly appreciated.
The issue with a 997.2 over a 996 GT3 is that the 997.2 is still depreciating. Sure, they are a lot less than what they were new, but they are going to continue to go down. The 996 is at the bottom of it's depreciation curve, and is probably going to start going back up again soon. 55K is a screaming deal for a GT3, so if I were you, I'd go 996. If you can't pony up for the 4.0, go for the money maker in the 996.
 
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Based on the info you've given us (want a car that can be daily driven and has rarity/investment value), I say take a good hard look to see if you could stretch the funds just slightly and get a 997.1 GT3RS. The 997.1 is the car that brought back the RS Moniker to the Porsche nameplate (ROW cars, not counting the VERY rare, not available in the US 996RS). Among automobile historians/enthusiasts and Porsche Purists, this car was the closest in spirit to the original Deified Carrera RS that Porsche had put to the 911 model. It's also the very first water-cooled 911 to carry the RS Badge of Honor (to us here in the US). I know beauty is only skin deep, but the factory thought enough of this car to give it the same graphic treatment, at least in spirit, that the original Carrera RS wore to make sure that it's ancestry is prominent and acknowledged. The 997.2 GT3 does carry the newer tail light treatment which I agree does look A LOT better, but you could always do the conversion and still retain the stock pieces incase you ever want to sell the vehicle in it's original form. The motor also got a bump in HP. However, as we all know, VERY few of us could truly exploit the additional power of the 997.2 over the 997.1 and it is probably realistically only appreciated on the track. That being said, the 997.2 GT3 is still quite a rare and beautiful car. To add more confusion to your dilemna, the 997.2 GT3 in my understanding is actually quite rare itself and enjoyed the same upgrades for the most part with the exception of widebody and rear wing. So years down the road, the 997.2 GT3 may be looked upon as a gem in the rough since it kind of got lost in the wake of the 997.2 GT3RS as it was ballyhoo'd upon by automotive journalists throughout the literary world. I guess what I'm saying...it's a beautiful problem to have, what ever decision you choose, don't look back and question whether or not you made the right choice because the proverbial grass is always greener on the other side, but in this case the grass is green on both sides.

BTW, my friend purchased a 997.1 GT3RS last month and has had a grin etched into his face that could only be removed with the help of modern medicine. Enjoy and good luck!
 
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Originally Posted by ScottKelly911
To add more confusion to your dilemna, the 997.2 GT3 in my understanding is actually quite rare itself and enjoyed the same upgrades for the most part with the exception of widebody and rear wing. So years down the road, the 997.2 GT3 may be looked upon as a gem in the rough
I think Scott's probably right here. The .1 RS is a great choice if you can afford it and the .2 GT3 will likely still look terrific to everyone's eyes 10 years from now. Good choices either way.
 
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Old 05-02-2012 | 03:20 PM
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However, there are quite a few 997.2 GT3's in existance. Not quite a dime a dozen but still not exactly rare either.

The 4.0 or RS is still the best bet for future value.
 
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I think a lot of the 997.2 GT3's "unique value" will be based on what the 991 GT3 offers. If the PDK rumors are true, then it will be the last of the "purist" GT cars offered. I personally have a soft spot for the .2 GT3, as it isn't as in your face as the RS models, while still offering a racing performance and pedigree. Happy hunting.
 
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Exactly. I have the gt2 for tracking. I understand the gt3 is a track ready car but I will take it to the track occasionally. More on the terms of once in a blue moon. I will be driving it daily. I just want a GT3 because from the moment I saw one I feel in love with looks and especially the sound. Pure engine, pure power. I'm obsessed with the RS but like he said its too "in your face". I guess I'll just have to wait and see the PDK situation with the 991.
 
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I have had a 997.1 gt3, a 997.2 RS and was lucky to have gotten a 4.0RS. Aside from the 4.0 being an utterly amazing car it is also the smoothest on the street of all the gt3's I have had. The torque is absolutely a blast and besides it being the most exhilarating it is the most capable and well mannered in terms of handling. All the gt3's are special cars but the 4.0 is pretty damned perfect. Doesn't hurt that it is also rare.
 
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Originally Posted by bennnz0
I love the 4.0 but at the same time I can't afford it and it doesn't seem like you can drive it daily lol.
And there is the rub. You will only retain the value of a highly collectable by buying it and keeping it pristine with extremely low miles. Any car that will maintain it's value will be ultra-rare and extremely expensive upon purchase. No car driven daily will hold any collector value - at least for 20 years or so. So if you have to ask how much........... I would advise buying a car that you 1) can afford to pay cash for, 2) really like and enjoy driving, 3) decide whether you want a car because you want to look at it or drive it. Cars don't appreciate and very few (very, very few) hold their values. Even rare Bentley's and Rolls Royces depreciate by half in very short order.
 


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