I thought the CL issue is covered under safety recall?

*edit: https://www.6speedonline.com/forums/...t3-recall.html

 

Replacing the hubs, bearings etc. for the 2010 Gt3 "IS" the recall and covered. The "issue" of CL's for all the others (2011 GT3/RS,Turbo, GTS) in the future IS NOT. We all will have to pay for our own hubs, bearings etc. down the road as part of the "new" and revised maintenance schedule by Porsche...

 

Oh my...

Sorry, man.

 

I'm sorry, too. Some say the costs are between $15-20K PER change (rear at 4200miles, front at 8500miles). Converting to 5-lug "apparently" is cheaper but then again, did I buy this car so I can "convert"??? Just because Porsche forgot to tell me? Man, I'm mad, it's time to buy a Corvette

 

didn't i tell you that!!!

 

i was the first RS tony did the 5 lug conversion. then did a few of my friends as well.

the gray RS i have also has tony's car in it, well, all my RS have/had his bars.

 

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Thread Hijack!!! Can we get back to the "CL" issue. please? Besides, I don't need a roll bar, just makes my car look like a "track car" and then I'd have to change those silly hubs...
And honestly, I don't know why you guys need "custom-fabricated" roll bars. You can buy them off the shelf, can't you? There's nothing custom or rare about a GT3, is there? What am I missing?

 

off the shelf bar is not cheaper than custom bar.
too many issues with them to explain. one can pick whichever bar they like.

five lug is not new. very easy to do. documented on panorama as well.

many wheels available.

above are the "general guidelines" the finer point are trade secrets. things on my cars are never what they appear to be...... even my close p car friends cannot duplicate it ;-)

five lugs takes some ***** and commitment. i love it and i dont really give a damn about originality. it's my car so i do what i want. some may not approve five lugs for resale, so you need to decide which way to go, only you can make that call.

 

I understand your frustration.

Quick question: What led you to get the CL car?

 

GT3's only came with CL's. They look good but that's about it.

 

I was looking at getting into the GT3.2 version since it was introduced. But the CL's quickly became a big stumbling block for me. Too finicky, and in the areas that I would do most of my driving I wouldn't have access to Porsche dealers or other shops suitably equipped to do wheel changes effectively. I'd have to carry the BS CL- related tools and follow the vague and nonsensical procedures associated with their safety. And, add the fact that my proximity to track use is very limited. Obviously now CL's are beginning to present more dangerous issues. I have debated the 5 lug conversion and costs associated with same. Meanwhile along comes the coolant hose issues with these models. Then there is the bigger issue of how long do I have to wait to get into this version with these mods that I would definitely want, with the necessary amount of cash I have available. Today I'm more certain that the route I will personally travel is to buy a low mileage first gen. GT3 and spend extra money to add the SW bybass, coolant hose issue fix, LW flywheel, 4.0 clutch upgrade and the EVOMsit software (to name the most common mods)- and maybe a couple of other items... That way I am finally into a 3 in short order with no CL issues, mods to increase the performance to nearly match most of the 3.2 enhancements and be at or below the cost of a 3.2 ( prior to all of the additional costs of CL's replacement, coolant hose fix, SW bybass, clutch upgrade,etc. - which are items which I would add to a 3.2 anyways). Then I can just enjoy the ride with out the BS issues. Don't everyone follow my lead, as I want there to be a good selection still left available for me to buy this coming spring... LOL

 

Because I would be buying 2 sets of wheels. It would cost me around $9k going with OZ wheels.....12k going with a forged wheel like Forgeline or Fiske or HRE.

 

The CL is a big turn off without the additional replacement schedule. Heck Nobody specs people replace the studs/lugs on a non CL car. Porsche blew it on this one. If I were in your shoes I would do the conversion and sell your old CL stuff. I bet you'll get takers and recop 50% of the parts cost spent.

On the TC note Tony is the man! He put a roll bar my friends GT3. Shop in Marin wanted 10k+ for a roll bar that was not near as good as the one Tony built for far far less.

 

while pag screwed up CL for many. those who think that .1 can be modified to compete with .2 is off for a big surprise.

there are only a few .1 that comes close to .2. pjs, ranger.... to name two. while i dont know ranger's car well, it's much more $$ than .2 thus performs better. and PJS's. he cost on gearbox alone will scare most ppl ****less. and that car probably out accelerate 4.0.

finally, every GT3 going forward will be CL. does that mean we stop buying them? probably not.