996 GT3 to 997.1 GT3 RS
#1
996 GT3 to 997.1 GT3 RS.....Would you make the move at the Price???
Hi everyone, looking for opinions and advice. I will make my story quick.
I have a 2004 GT3 with 50000 miles on the clock, fully serviced and great condition with EVOMS ecu. All else is stock. Silver on Black. Never been tracked.
The 997.1 RS is black with orange accents (wheels, etc) with under 10000 miles and mint condition with nav, sport chrono, roll cage, PCCB, etc.
Both my car and the RS have minor insurance claims for equal damage amounts and both perfectly restored to original condition. Will be purchased at a very good dealership with a complete inspection (specifically RMS issue) but not sold as CPO status.
If they give me 50000$ on trade and a purchase price of 95000$ is it worth it? Would you take the plunge? I will not be tracking the car more than once a year. Is the jump to the 997.1 RS worth it? Do you think their value will be strong for at least 1-2 years? More specifically drop to 85000$ or less? Or should I do the original plan and buy a complete FVD Bombacher system with Throttle bottle and plenum and ECU for the 996? I would assume it would be much faster in a straight line with those mods but still slower on the track I am assuming.
Thanks everyone. Just looking for opinions.
I have a 2004 GT3 with 50000 miles on the clock, fully serviced and great condition with EVOMS ecu. All else is stock. Silver on Black. Never been tracked.
The 997.1 RS is black with orange accents (wheels, etc) with under 10000 miles and mint condition with nav, sport chrono, roll cage, PCCB, etc.
Both my car and the RS have minor insurance claims for equal damage amounts and both perfectly restored to original condition. Will be purchased at a very good dealership with a complete inspection (specifically RMS issue) but not sold as CPO status.
If they give me 50000$ on trade and a purchase price of 95000$ is it worth it? Would you take the plunge? I will not be tracking the car more than once a year. Is the jump to the 997.1 RS worth it? Do you think their value will be strong for at least 1-2 years? More specifically drop to 85000$ or less? Or should I do the original plan and buy a complete FVD Bombacher system with Throttle bottle and plenum and ECU for the 996? I would assume it would be much faster in a straight line with those mods but still slower on the track I am assuming.
Thanks everyone. Just looking for opinions.
Last edited by 996GT3TC; 12-28-2012 at 01:08 PM.
#2
I think when the 991GT3/RS comes out, everything will shift. The older the car the less the hit. I'd expect the 997.1 GT3RS to drop into the low $80s. Right now we're seeing 997.1GT3 in the $70s, and they will drop into the $60s.
Here's the thing. A number of 997 GT3 owners who stepped "up" from the 996GT3 found a car that is more "Street" and less "track". They found that all the electronic nanny nonsense in the new car spoiled much of the fun found in the old. So for what you plan to do, and with the RS, maybe it'll work out for you. But I'd expect the prices to come down on 997.1 at least 10% within that time frame.
Mike
Here's the thing. A number of 997 GT3 owners who stepped "up" from the 996GT3 found a car that is more "Street" and less "track". They found that all the electronic nanny nonsense in the new car spoiled much of the fun found in the old. So for what you plan to do, and with the RS, maybe it'll work out for you. But I'd expect the prices to come down on 997.1 at least 10% within that time frame.
Mike
#5
Yes, they are going to be wholesaling it with that as my trade in value towards the 997 RS. Keep in mind I am located in Ontario Canada. I am just wondering at these dollar figures if it's worth it.
That's why I am considering it. Although the 996 GT3 seems to be increasing in value lately and definitely holding strong over the past couple years of research for their pricing.
That's why I am considering it. Although the 996 GT3 seems to be increasing in value lately and definitely holding strong over the past couple years of research for their pricing.
#6
That's a solid trade-in and with the sales tax savings I'm assuming you get (on the first $50k), I think this is a solid move if you are financially comfortable with it. The RS models will always be more desirable and hold their value better than the non RS models, and we all have to admit that any 997 based RS model (GT2 or GT3) is one hell of a nice car! You'll have a Porsche with wide hips too, hahahaha! Best wishes and good luck with your decision.
#7
Sounds like an ok deal. While 95 may be a tad on the high side so is the the 50k for your 996, not to mention you will save $6500 in tax.
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#9
I think it all boils down to what you want.
Personally if I were looking to spend ~95k I'd probably be looking at a 3.8 car (regular '10 GT3) over a 3.6 car just because it's an even better all around car.
No doubt to me the 7.1 RS is the sexiest GT3 version ever produced though.
Go with your gut on what ever toots your horn the most.
Personally if I were looking to spend ~95k I'd probably be looking at a 3.8 car (regular '10 GT3) over a 3.6 car just because it's an even better all around car.
No doubt to me the 7.1 RS is the sexiest GT3 version ever produced though.
Go with your gut on what ever toots your horn the most.
#10
Yes, they are going to be wholesaling it with that as my trade in value towards the 997 RS. Keep in mind I am located in Ontario Canada. I am just wondering at these dollar figures if it's worth it.
That's why I am considering it. Although the 996 GT3 seems to be increasing in value lately and definitely holding strong over the past couple years of research for their pricing.
That's why I am considering it. Although the 996 GT3 seems to be increasing in value lately and definitely holding strong over the past couple years of research for their pricing.
#11
I really appreciate all the great comments and opinions. This really does help in making the right decision.
In my mind I agree with the sexiest GT3 comment as that exact same colour combo was a screen saver of mine last year for several months. I also totally agree that the 3.8 is definitely a big improvement over the RS, but I feel the hit on value will be stronger and I plan on upgrading annually or bi-annually until I can get a GT2, or 3.8/4.0 RS in a few years. So basically baby steps to a higher breed of GT3 or GT2 of course. I would actually prefer a 997
GT2 over any of the bunch (of course excluding 4.0). Do you think I should just hold off until the GT2 is below 100000$? That's the dollar figure I am shooting for.
The only thing holding me back in that outside my door (in northern Ontario) we have snowbanks several feet high, not a good time to buy a GT3 or maybe its the most inexpensive time to buy and trade into a step up.
The damage was said to be in the 30000$ range, I didn't get any details but that seems rather high. Should I be concerned ? I will definitely be getting details to the extent of the damage. I simply hope that doesn't hurt next year or two years from now trade in value.
Thanks again everyone and happy new year to everyone and hope to hear from all of you soon.
In my mind I agree with the sexiest GT3 comment as that exact same colour combo was a screen saver of mine last year for several months. I also totally agree that the 3.8 is definitely a big improvement over the RS, but I feel the hit on value will be stronger and I plan on upgrading annually or bi-annually until I can get a GT2, or 3.8/4.0 RS in a few years. So basically baby steps to a higher breed of GT3 or GT2 of course. I would actually prefer a 997
GT2 over any of the bunch (of course excluding 4.0). Do you think I should just hold off until the GT2 is below 100000$? That's the dollar figure I am shooting for.
The only thing holding me back in that outside my door (in northern Ontario) we have snowbanks several feet high, not a good time to buy a GT3 or maybe its the most inexpensive time to buy and trade into a step up.
The damage was said to be in the 30000$ range, I didn't get any details but that seems rather high. Should I be concerned ? I will definitely be getting details to the extent of the damage. I simply hope that doesn't hurt next year or two years from now trade in value.
Thanks again everyone and happy new year to everyone and hope to hear from all of you soon.
#12
I really appreciate all the great comments and opinions. This really does help in making the right decision.
In my mind I agree with the sexiest GT3 comment as that exact same colour combo was a screen saver of mine last year for several months. I also totally agree that the 3.8 is definitely a big improvement over the RS, but I feel the hit on value will be stronger and I plan on upgrading annually or bi-annually until I can get a GT2, or 3.8/4.0 RS in a few years. So basically baby steps to a higher breed of GT3 or GT2 of course. I would actually prefer a 997
GT2 over any of the bunch (of course excluding 4.0). Do you think I should just hold off until the GT2 is below 100000$? That's the dollar figure I am shooting for.
The only thing holding me back in that outside my door (in northern Ontario) we have snowbanks several feet high, not a good time to buy a GT3 or maybe its the most inexpensive time to buy and trade into a step up.
The damage was said to be in the 30000$ range, I didn't get any details but that seems rather high. Should I be concerned ? I will definitely be getting details to the extent of the damage. I simply hope that doesn't hurt next year or two years from now trade in value.
Thanks again everyone and happy new year to everyone and hope to hear from all of you soon.
In my mind I agree with the sexiest GT3 comment as that exact same colour combo was a screen saver of mine last year for several months. I also totally agree that the 3.8 is definitely a big improvement over the RS, but I feel the hit on value will be stronger and I plan on upgrading annually or bi-annually until I can get a GT2, or 3.8/4.0 RS in a few years. So basically baby steps to a higher breed of GT3 or GT2 of course. I would actually prefer a 997
GT2 over any of the bunch (of course excluding 4.0). Do you think I should just hold off until the GT2 is below 100000$? That's the dollar figure I am shooting for.
The only thing holding me back in that outside my door (in northern Ontario) we have snowbanks several feet high, not a good time to buy a GT3 or maybe its the most inexpensive time to buy and trade into a step up.
The damage was said to be in the 30000$ range, I didn't get any details but that seems rather high. Should I be concerned ? I will definitely be getting details to the extent of the damage. I simply hope that doesn't hurt next year or two years from now trade in value.
Thanks again everyone and happy new year to everyone and hope to hear from all of you soon.
#13
I really appreciate all the great comments and opinions. This really does help in making the right decision.
In my mind I agree with the sexiest GT3 comment as that exact same colour combo was a screen saver of mine last year for several months. I also totally agree that the 3.8 is definitely a big improvement over the RS, but I feel the hit on value will be stronger and I plan on upgrading annually or bi-annually until I can get a GT2, or 3.8/4.0 RS in a few years. So basically baby steps to a higher breed of GT3 or GT2 of course. I would actually prefer a 997
GT2 over any of the bunch (of course excluding 4.0). Do you think I should just hold off until the GT2 is below 100000$? That's the dollar figure I am shooting for.
The only thing holding me back in that outside my door (in northern Ontario) we have snowbanks several feet high, not a good time to buy a GT3 or maybe its the most inexpensive time to buy and trade into a step up.
The damage was said to be in the 30000$ range, I didn't get any details but that seems rather high. Should I be concerned ? I will definitely be getting details to the extent of the damage. I simply hope that doesn't hurt next year or two years from now trade in value.
Thanks again everyone and happy new year to everyone and hope to hear from all of you soon.
In my mind I agree with the sexiest GT3 comment as that exact same colour combo was a screen saver of mine last year for several months. I also totally agree that the 3.8 is definitely a big improvement over the RS, but I feel the hit on value will be stronger and I plan on upgrading annually or bi-annually until I can get a GT2, or 3.8/4.0 RS in a few years. So basically baby steps to a higher breed of GT3 or GT2 of course. I would actually prefer a 997
GT2 over any of the bunch (of course excluding 4.0). Do you think I should just hold off until the GT2 is below 100000$? That's the dollar figure I am shooting for.
The only thing holding me back in that outside my door (in northern Ontario) we have snowbanks several feet high, not a good time to buy a GT3 or maybe its the most inexpensive time to buy and trade into a step up.
The damage was said to be in the 30000$ range, I didn't get any details but that seems rather high. Should I be concerned ? I will definitely be getting details to the extent of the damage. I simply hope that doesn't hurt next year or two years from now trade in value.
Thanks again everyone and happy new year to everyone and hope to hear from all of you soon.
I've purchased cars with damage before - including an RS. You have to plan on keeping the car, or be willing to take the hit when trading in a car with a story. The higher profile the car - the higher % you are going to get whacked. There's a reason they are offering you 50K for your car, they are probably in the RS for 70K.
As Mike stated earlier, every GT3 has become more soft since the 996, I wish I had kept at least one of mine. That being said, the 997 RS is a sexy car, and if that's what you're looking for - you'll end up in one. Just make it the right one.
#14
Hey guys, another offer came to the table which to me seems like a much much better choice.
Two choices are:
1) 2010 GT3 Black/Black, PCCB, Sport chrono, Nav 18000 miles. 95000$.
2) 2010 GT3 White/Black, PCCB, Nav, 10500 miles. Asking 99000$ Assuming they would take 95000 as well. Has Sharkwerks bypass exhaust, no ECU upgrade.
Both CPO, both 1 mature owner, both clean carfax with up to date service including new tires. The black one has zero over revs of any type. The White one has logged type 2 over revs but very minimal. Documentation verified for both cars for proof. Both Cars located in US and will be imported into Canada.
What do you think? Also I would more than likely be very satisfied to keep this car a lot longer than my previous post suggest since this would fit the bill until 991 GT3, or an "affordable 4.0 or GT2. Think the prices of 997.2 GT3's will fall below 90000$ in Canada in the next few years that is low mileage and mint condition?
What do you think?
Two choices are:
1) 2010 GT3 Black/Black, PCCB, Sport chrono, Nav 18000 miles. 95000$.
2) 2010 GT3 White/Black, PCCB, Nav, 10500 miles. Asking 99000$ Assuming they would take 95000 as well. Has Sharkwerks bypass exhaust, no ECU upgrade.
Both CPO, both 1 mature owner, both clean carfax with up to date service including new tires. The black one has zero over revs of any type. The White one has logged type 2 over revs but very minimal. Documentation verified for both cars for proof. Both Cars located in US and will be imported into Canada.
What do you think? Also I would more than likely be very satisfied to keep this car a lot longer than my previous post suggest since this would fit the bill until 991 GT3, or an "affordable 4.0 or GT2. Think the prices of 997.2 GT3's will fall below 90000$ in Canada in the next few years that is low mileage and mint condition?
What do you think?
Last edited by 996GT3TC; 01-10-2013 at 02:55 PM.
#15
With this new deal are you still getting $50k trade in? If so that is a SOLID trade in...
With regard to your question is 6GT3 worth upgrading to 7GT3 or RS.... YES. Particularly how you state using yours. (Street) Much better street car without a doubt. I recently came from a 6GT3 to an RS.
Like you I was faced with 10GT3 or 997.1 RS it was an easy answer for me. RS. I have a Race Car so this is just a fun car and occasional track. However, I wouldn't have bought the RS with that much previous damage. Although when the 10GT3 and the RS are old and gray the RS will certainly hold a higher value, the Damaged one would plummet further IMO.
With regard to your question is 6GT3 worth upgrading to 7GT3 or RS.... YES. Particularly how you state using yours. (Street) Much better street car without a doubt. I recently came from a 6GT3 to an RS.
Like you I was faced with 10GT3 or 997.1 RS it was an easy answer for me. RS. I have a Race Car so this is just a fun car and occasional track. However, I wouldn't have bought the RS with that much previous damage. Although when the 10GT3 and the RS are old and gray the RS will certainly hold a higher value, the Damaged one would plummet further IMO.
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