pdk gt3.... Booooo.... Booooo...
#18
02-21-2013, 05:21 AM
So you contend that there is no performance from manual? I think there are quite a few cars still setting records over paddle shift cars that would contend otherwise.
People do DE for enjoyment and 1 or 2% of speed difference is not worth losing most of what makes it enjoyable. For the people that are all about performance, there is Time Trials and Racing, and at the amateur level, even the vast majority of those people would STILL rather have a manual, or at least a REAL mechanical sequential.
If performance is all you are looking for, you should be trying to go pro, the majority of us will be content with our hobby. And since you are so set on performance, let's see some what lap records you have set.........
Oddly enough, the people talking about performance this and that drive like molasses on the track. They will need more than PDK to fix their problems. Last thing we need is a bunch of numbskulls coming to the track with magazine racer mentality and not having to learn basic skills like shifting to slow their speeds down so they don't hurt themselves.
IMO if PDK is worth 2-3-4 seconds a lap, you need far more work than a transmission.
People do DE for enjoyment and 1 or 2% of speed difference is not worth losing most of what makes it enjoyable. For the people that are all about performance, there is Time Trials and Racing, and at the amateur level, even the vast majority of those people would STILL rather have a manual, or at least a REAL mechanical sequential.
If performance is all you are looking for, you should be trying to go pro, the majority of us will be content with our hobby. And since you are so set on performance, let's see some what lap records you have set.........
Oddly enough, the people talking about performance this and that drive like molasses on the track. They will need more than PDK to fix their problems. Last thing we need is a bunch of numbskulls coming to the track with magazine racer mentality and not having to learn basic skills like shifting to slow their speeds down so they don't hurt themselves.
IMO if PDK is worth 2-3-4 seconds a lap, you need far more work than a transmission.
Take that chip off your shoulder, and reread my post in the proper context.
#19
02-21-2013, 09:59 AM
oh get over it everybody! shifting is over rated.
i had mt in 997 gt3 and now dct in gtr and no difference in 'fun' factor. shifting, even heel toe, gets to be a reflex after a while and is done without thinking. shifting ends up being robotic. i have just as much 'fun' with paddles on track as i did with mt AND so much better in bumper to bumper dd. im glad i had know how to heel toe but i dont miss it much.
btw, guarantee gt3 will have mt available soon
i had mt in 997 gt3 and now dct in gtr and no difference in 'fun' factor. shifting, even heel toe, gets to be a reflex after a while and is done without thinking. shifting ends up being robotic. i have just as much 'fun' with paddles on track as i did with mt AND so much better in bumper to bumper dd. im glad i had know how to heel toe but i dont miss it much.
btw, guarantee gt3 will have mt available soon
Last edited by fcar348; 02-21-2013 at 12:11 PM.
#20
02-21-2013, 10:02 AM
I'm only pointing out the flaw in your regularly flawed logic.
#21
02-21-2013, 10:58 AM
So here it is, heavy:
I mean, there is no way in hell Porsche will get rid of the clutch pedal in their track oriented car, right?
Last edited by jaspergtr; 02-21-2013 at 11:05 AM.
#22
02-21-2013, 11:47 AM
What are you talking about? Just more jiberish when you get called out on something.
Porsche aren't immune to stupid decisions, hence the reason they are owned by VW.
You still continuously put your foot in your mouth that anyone who wants performance cannot get it from a manual GT3 vs a PDK one. No matter how much dirt you shovel over it, your comments are still a pile of garbage.
Porsche aren't immune to stupid decisions, hence the reason they are owned by VW.
You still continuously put your foot in your mouth that anyone who wants performance cannot get it from a manual GT3 vs a PDK one. No matter how much dirt you shovel over it, your comments are still a pile of garbage.
#23
02-21-2013, 12:49 PM
What are you talking about? Just more jiberish when you get called out on something.
Porsche aren't immune to stupid decisions, hence the reason they are owned by VW.
You still continuously put your foot in your mouth that anyone who wants performance cannot get it from a manual GT3 vs a PDK one. No matter how much dirt you shovel over it, your comments are still a pile of garbage.
Porsche aren't immune to stupid decisions, hence the reason they are owned by VW.
You still continuously put your foot in your mouth that anyone who wants performance cannot get it from a manual GT3 vs a PDK one. No matter how much dirt you shovel over it, your comments are still a pile of garbage.
I'm not here to explain someone else's point of view. You appear to have a problem with the OP (he is the one who said it). If you need me to show you - again - who made the comment about a few seconds per lap lost just because of the transmission, I'll do it for you (hint: it was the first one). I can't get any more direct than this:
You posted about my reply regarding seconds per lap regarding the transmission - I responded the OP made that assertion, and then pointed it out to you, and you call it 'jiberish'. If you didn't put those together, you have bigger issues, brother.
Last edited by jaspergtr; 02-21-2013 at 12:52 PM.
#24
02-21-2013, 12:49 PM
You would think engineers would be able to design a maunal/auto PDK that has both manual shifting with a third pedal and the auto mode. A triple clutch PDK so to speak. Is there not a market for this, is it technically impossible? I would buy that for any price.
#25
02-21-2013, 01:46 PM
The rumors are brewing that the engine was developed as a modification of the current modular design by Porsche Motorsports and will be used in the Cup cars? And the PDK system is significantly faster than the current PDKs seen in the 991s? Redline 9000 RPM?
Doesn't this pique anyone's interest?
Doesn't this pique anyone's interest?
#26
02-26-2013, 06:15 PM
oh get over it everybody! shifting is over rated.
i had mt in 997 gt3 and now dct in gtr and no difference in 'fun' factor. shifting, even heel toe, gets to be a reflex after a while and is done without thinking. shifting ends up being robotic. i have just as much 'fun' with paddles on track as i did with mt AND so much better in bumper to bumper dd. im glad i had know how to heel toe but i dont miss it much.
btw, guarantee gt3 will have mt available soon
i had mt in 997 gt3 and now dct in gtr and no difference in 'fun' factor. shifting, even heel toe, gets to be a reflex after a while and is done without thinking. shifting ends up being robotic. i have just as much 'fun' with paddles on track as i did with mt AND so much better in bumper to bumper dd. im glad i had know how to heel toe but i dont miss it much.
btw, guarantee gt3 will have mt available soon
The key is getting to that level. And for some like me the challenge of making it robot like and second nature takes lots and lots of practice.
#27
02-26-2013, 07:48 PM
I forgot that I even posted this... Drinking Budweisers and daytrading Appl in the morning has its side effects...
Yes... I will for go a few seconds in my RS so I can manual shift up n down and truly enjoy the car for its intended purposes.. I did the pdk for safety and learning the track...
You can't beat the GT family ...
Heavy has it right .... Auto mode is gonna be dangerous for everybody out there...
And for us at the track at de days and having fun, you can't beat rowing the gears..
Yes... I will for go a few seconds in my RS so I can manual shift up n down and truly enjoy the car for its intended purposes.. I did the pdk for safety and learning the track...
You can't beat the GT family ...
Heavy has it right .... Auto mode is gonna be dangerous for everybody out there...
And for us at the track at de days and having fun, you can't beat rowing the gears..
#30
03-03-2013, 01:57 AM
Poor drivers will get placed in the correct groups and this doesn't draw on the type of trans they are using correct?!
Do you all go out worrying about the M3, 458's, 360 F1's, 430's, MP4 12's, Zondas, Gallardo's, PDK turbo S's, GTR's to name but a few that can legitimately mix it in any group or level?
I'd be more worried of a coolant hose failing on a GT3 RS series 1 or 2 or shaved to the max tyres than some ones gearbox type
Jay