Looks like the new GT3RS will offer the PDK only

http://www.digitaltrends.com/cars/po...packing-500hp/

 

Enzo.

 

I would have guessed the RS at least would come with a stick.

 

At last... great!

The world moves on.

 

what are you talking about

 

Porsche has sold out. They have been VW'd. Expect great specs and second tier performance like Audi and Lambo. Not cars for enthusiasts and lots of gizmos and drivers aids. They didn't even bother to get sport seats certified for the car.

A shame really. When they could have prevented this with a flat 8.

 

lol!

Its great to see Porsche has stood behind its convictions, direction and technology.

This is a new chapter and any of you in business know you can't please everyone. There are others that concentrate on true track cars, hyper cars etc, Porsche has gone for performance cars. VW has done a great job of taking a failing company and making it great with a bright future.

Jay

 

A failing company?? Someone has been misinformed........

 

...er...No!

look at Porsche in the early 90's and then again in 2007 when gobal financail changes and its debt (from buying VW shares!!) meant VW took the lions share and control of Porsche, it was struggling big time and it was only a cheap model as in the boxter and then the Cayenne ( same under pinnings as the VW Touareg and Audi Q7) that brought Porsche back from the brink!

Jay

 

How exactly was Porsche struggling while trying to acquire VW? You are contradicting yourself. Of course it's easy to compare a recession to a boom, but in the early 90's Porsche has just survived bankruptcy when they tried to replace the 911 with the 924 and 944. It almost took them down. The 996 into the 997 era was one of Porsche's finest. The racing program was killing it financially, the Cayman and Boxster and Cayenne additions were huge. This was the reason Porsche was even able to make the dumb decision to try to acquire VW.

What struggling company do you know of that tries to acquire a MUCH bigger one?

Like I said, misinformed.

 

Heavy,

You need to read my posts again and then yours!? You are the one contradicting yourself. In your last post to mention P was struggling in the 90's... tick, and agree so this backs my comment. Do a search on P history, P over stretched themselves with heavy dept to the point where they went from doing OK as a small bespoke company and trying to acquire a company 14 times their size to grow (they knew they where maxed out and needed to acquire other revenue streams to afford technology to compete with the the likes of Ferrari and Lamborghini as they had with Fiat and Audi if in reverse). P loans went bad because of the slow down in global markets and VW took advantage and reversed the by-out so VW became the owner not P.

What do you think would have happened if VW hadn't rescued P by taking them over? Massive debts and a small bespoke company...struggling, I think so, can you imagine the P board room meetings at this time!!!??? They would have gone to the wall or we could have seen GM being the owner god forbid!

I'll move on (again) as you (Heavychevy) like to fight and are opinionated (your prerogative and mine not to fight it out here) its all on the net for those that want to research further and decide for yourselves.

 

this is really a shame, rear wheel steering and now only PDK.

I recently bought 2011 GT3 RS and will be holding on to it forever.

 

^..this...997 gt3/rs just became a lot more appealing to the purest crowd...

 

The Cayenne did not save Porsche from the brink. You are talking in so many circles you are confusing yourself. Porsche sold far more 911's in the early 2000's than what they sell even now. Porsche's sales were booming even without the Cayenne. And the racing and parts program worth billions by itself Porsche being the largest manufacturer of race cars in the world. Sales of Cayenne, boxster etc just putting them over the top. How convenient you acknowledge the pertinent information after it has already been brought up.

VW hasn't even done anything yet, surely you know that what we see now was designed and done many years ago. Even the Panamera before VW took over. We won't see what affect VW has on Porsche for years to come.

Sorry facts are getting in your way.

 

HC, the trend looks like cyclic production numbers of the 911 was increasing through the entire 2000-2010 decade until the market crashed. Every new generation of 911s brought more and more sales. By early 2000s, the 996 was in its mid life cycle. The trend suggests that sales would have been even higher late 2000s had it not been for the economy.

http://www.porschemag.com/render.cfm...uction_volumes

In the US, 911 sales peaked in 2007 with 13,153 vehicles sold. It was also the year in which the 911 represented the greatest number of all units sold at 36%

http://www.porsche.com/usa/aboutpors...&id=2008-01-03

Then the market crashed