Did you see the video and the mass moving in relation to the sample rate? Do you think that debris and mass was decelerating from 45mph when it knocked over a concrete pole, striking a larger tree to an unnatural lean angle and then coming to a rest against a smaller tree?

I hope you or I ever have such a simplistic lawyer per your example that would look at two entirely different vehicles and crash scenes and argue the speeds were similar.

 

http://www.cnn.com/2013/12/03/showbi...html?hpt=hp_t2

A new video showing a different angle. I think it's pretty clear they were going a lot faster then the 40-45mph as suggested earlier. The speed at which you can see the light pole and the trees get mowed over before the car stops, looks to me, to be at a minimum, double that speed. Also, the video shows that there was a bit of time(they say 60 seconds) before the car becomes fully engulfed in flames. I think it shows that they were either trapped in the car and couldn't get out(which I highly doubt because the car split into 2 pieces) or that they were killed on impact, or at least, knocked unconscious.

 

Great find ^^^^ They make some great points as well. Who knows if Paul was driving... just because they left the event with Roger driving, doesnt mean Paul couldn't have switched seats with him. Anyway the coroner report is due out ANY minute now so we can finally find out exactly what killed them. Its interesting since they still had there seatbelts on, makes you think they were dead before the fire. Lets hope so because burning alive is no way to go. Nobody deserves that.

 

Black smoke indicates carbon fibre ignited. Could have been an intense fuel fire before ignition of the carbon fibre. Speculation and video establishes nada. CNN dude was a moron to make such comments and speculation. Some people just lack class as well as common sense. Unfortunately, such people lack the sense to realize they posses either trait.

 

Wow man, you're clueless. Exactly where and when did I argue that the speeds were similar?

I shared my story because 4n suggested that the driver in the GT was going over 45 mph based off video evidence from 4n's post in #112, along with his reasons for why- knocking a tree over, debris scattered all over, etc.


Anyway, it looks like you get a kick out of arguing with people, so carry on and enjoy yourself, pal.

 

http://www.cnn.com/2013/12/03/showbi...html?hpt=hp_t2

 

^^^ Thanks for the link....again. It was re-posted a mere 2 posts above yours and originally 4 posts above yours. You might want to at least glance at the thread before you post.
Just trying to help you out

 

no sweat and your welcome, your point is.........

 

If someone could measure the distance between those two trees that were hit and using the film accurately time the car's contact between the first and second, you could get a close estimate of the speed at which they were travelling between the contact of both trees. This would have to have been less than the speed at which they were travelling since contact with the trees would have reduced it.

Looks pretty scary fast though. Fast enough to not suffer any pain.

 

Uhh, I don't think so.

 

I think its pretty clear

It's just irritating sometimes when there is an echo in a thread because people are lazy.
Not here to make enemies so we'll just leave it there. I'm sure you were just trying to help out.

 

Even with the second video, I don't think we can conclude how fast the car was traveling. Pointless to speculate right now. And, the CNN guy is talking so far out of his *** CNN should be ashamed. Blatant and obvious attempt at creating content where there really isn't any, just to fill the airwaves in order to sell ads.

 

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I'm surprised no one here has brought up the fact that Porsche worked with Michelin to design a new tire for the GT because of the snap oversteer problems. Those tires came out two years ago and most owners report a night and day difference in predictable handling. The tires on the car were the old style and may have been the original tires.
Take a look at the tires from two weeks ago. https://www.6speedonline.com/forums/...y-service.html

Doesn't change anything and it's a horrible tragedy, but perhaps everyone here could remember to pay better attention to tire temp (they were likely cold), wear, and age.

 

Her site is down. I read her veiled attempt to gain publicity of a piece of crap article once before the site went down. Hopefully the server was hosted in her apartment and someone kicked her door in and destroyed it (and her).

 

Her sites Alexa ranking is 1,721,106 meaning no one knows she's even alive.