2014 GT3 Available at Momentum Porsche Houston
#35
01-12-2014, 04:06 PM
991S verified lap times have shown it to be faster around the Nurburgring than the LFA, older GT-Rs, the ZR1, 430 Scuderia, LP640s, SLR McLarens, SLS AMGs, Zonda S, M3 GTS/CSL. etc.
I wouldn't call that an "entry level sports car," especially if these numbers are non-GT3/GT2 records.
#37
01-12-2014, 04:52 PM
Based on my experience Ferrari dealers will not go over MSRP but you better have bought a new F Car over MSRP through a customer consignment or a used Ferrari from an authorized F dealer to join the "Club". So it's sort a buying into the F Club owning an F Car before they allow you MSRP pricing. Plus when you sell you car you better sell it back to them during the first year or so or you will be banned from ever buying at MSRP. This happened to me in 2005 when I bought an F430 for $20k over from a customer that bought for MSRP and wanted to make a quick profit though the F dealer in Redwood City in Nor Cal. I ended up selling it on eBay 18 months later, they found out and I was not allowed to buy another F car at MSRP. So believe me F dealers can be ******.
#39
01-12-2014, 08:08 PM
I was just offered a new incoming F12 at 75 over. I have bought 4Ferraris from them. Ferrari dealers do it too. I just laughed.
Last edited by carcommander; 01-12-2014 at 08:10 PM.
#40
01-12-2014, 10:06 PM
get new wife or maybe get rid of wife and get girlfriend? consider this if you are married and die wife gets everything if you have a girlfriend and you die she gets nothing-so who is more likely to keep you alive
#41
01-12-2014, 10:16 PM
Based on my experience Ferrari dealers will not go over MSRP but you better have bought a new F Car over MSRP through a customer consignment or a used Ferrari from an authorized F dealer to join the "Club". So it's sort a buying into the F Club owning an F Car before they allow you MSRP pricing. Plus when you sell you car you better sell it back to them during the first year or so or you will be banned from ever buying at MSRP. This happened to me in 2005 when I bought an F430 for $20k over from a customer that bought for MSRP and wanted to make a quick profit though the F dealer in Redwood City in Nor Cal. I ended up selling it on eBay 18 months later, they found out and I was not allowed to buy another F car at MSRP. So believe me F dealers can be ******.
#42
01-13-2014, 08:59 AM
Based on my experience Ferrari dealers will not go over MSRP but you better have bought a new F Car over MSRP through a customer consignment or a used Ferrari from an authorized F dealer to join the "Club". So it's sort a buying into the F Club owning an F Car before they allow you MSRP pricing. Plus when you sell you car you better sell it back to them during the first year or so or you will be banned from ever buying at MSRP. This happened to me in 2005 when I bought an F430 for $20k over from a customer that bought for MSRP and wanted to make a quick profit though the F dealer in Redwood City in Nor Cal. I ended up selling it on eBay 18 months later, they found out and I was not allowed to buy another F car at MSRP. So believe me F dealers can be ******.
#43
01-14-2014, 11:02 AM
Not sure if it's already been commented upon by others in regard to complaints of “price gouging” by high–end car dealerships but thought I'd add my observation that I find it quite ironic that 1%'ers - high net worth people that can legitimately afford to purchase a new 991 GT3 or Ferrari - take issue with one of the most fundamental tenets of capitalism – the free market. This presupposes that most 1%'ers on this forum abhor anything remotely similar to socialism or communism (anecdotally supported by a vast amount of commentary on this forum). Yet to propose that dealers sell for MSRP (“S” = suggested) strikes me as a demand for price fixing (albeit, non-government imposed). Why? Let the dealer charge whatever the market will bear. If the buyer is some guy/gal who just signed a front-loaded guaranteed money sports contract, let him or her pay up for that new car – they can afford it. The dealer in turn will redistribute the wealth and generate commerce in the form of commissions to its salespeople, capital improvements to dealership, offset discounts on other models, dividend to the owners so they can bid on a black rhino hunt, whatever – that’s capitalism. Don't like Momentum’s pricing policy – don’t patronize them (works just as well with deceptive sales practices, see Lozzy997’ “My poor car” thread on Rennlist). Do it in sufficient numbers and they’ll succumb – not because they like you or feel they've done something morally wrong – but because it’s bad for their business.
More than complaining about having to wait in line for an iPhone, this is perhaps one of the grandest examples of WPP.
More than complaining about having to wait in line for an iPhone, this is perhaps one of the grandest examples of WPP.
#44
01-14-2014, 01:04 PM
not sure if it's already been commented upon by others in regard to complaints of “price gouging” by high–end car dealerships but thought i'd add my observation that i find it quite ironic that 1%'ers - high net worth people that can legitimately afford to purchase a new 991 gt3 or ferrari - take issue with one of the most fundamental tenets of capitalism – the free market. This presupposes that most 1%'ers on this forum abhor anything remotely similar to socialism or communism (anecdotally supported by a vast amount of commentary on this forum). Yet to propose that dealers sell for msrp (“s” = suggested) strikes me as a demand for price fixing (albeit, non-government imposed). Why? Let the dealer charge whatever the market will bear. If the buyer is some guy/gal who just signed a front-loaded guaranteed money sports contract, let him or her pay up for that new car – they can afford it. The dealer in turn will redistribute the wealth and generate commerce in the form of commissions to its salespeople, capital improvements to dealership, offset discounts on other models, dividend to the owners so they can bid on a black rhino hunt, whatever – that’s capitalism. Don't like momentum’s pricing policy – don’t patronize them (works just as well with deceptive sales practices, see lozzy997’ “my poor car” thread on rennlist). Do it in sufficient numbers and they’ll succumb – not because they like you or feel they've done something morally wrong – but because it’s bad for their business. More than complaining about having to wait in line for an iphone, this is perhaps one of the grandest examples of wpp.
#45
01-14-2014, 02:03 PM
Not sure if it's already been commented upon by others in regard to complaints of “price gouging” by high–end car dealerships but thought I'd add my observation that I find it quite ironic that 1%'ers - high net worth people that can legitimately afford to purchase a new 991 GT3 or Ferrari - take issue with one of the most fundamental tenets of capitalism – the free market. This presupposes that most 1%'ers on this forum abhor anything remotely similar to socialism or communism (anecdotally supported by a vast amount of commentary on this forum). Yet to propose that dealers sell for MSRP (“S” = suggested) strikes me as a demand for price fixing (albeit, non-government imposed). Why? Let the dealer charge whatever the market will bear. If the buyer is some guy/gal who just signed a front-loaded guaranteed money sports contract, let him or her pay up for that new car – they can afford it. The dealer in turn will redistribute the wealth and generate commerce in the form of commissions to its salespeople, capital improvements to dealership, offset discounts on other models, dividend to the 😜owners so they can bid on a black rhino hunt, whatever – that’s capitalism. Don't like Momentum’s pricing policy – don’t patronize them (works just as well with deceptive sales practices, see Lozzy997’ “My poor car” thread on Rennlist). Do it in sufficient numbers and they’ll succumb – not because they like you or feel they've done something morally wrong – but because it’s bad for their business.
More than complaining about having to wait in line for an iPhone, this is perhaps one of the grandest examples of WPP.
More than complaining about having to wait in line for an iPhone, this is perhaps one of the grandest examples of WPP.