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Originally Posted by NYC_Z06
Not sure if it's already been commented upon by others in regard to complaints of “price gouging” by high–end car dealerships but thought I'd add my observation that I find it quite ironic that 1%'ers - high net worth people that can legitimately afford to purchase a new 991 GT3 or Ferrari - take issue with one of the most fundamental tenets of capitalism – the free market. This presupposes that most 1%'ers on this forum abhor anything remotely similar to socialism or communism (anecdotally supported by a vast amount of commentary on this forum). Yet to propose that dealers sell for MSRP (“S” = suggested) strikes me as a demand for price fixing (albeit, non-government imposed). Why? Let the dealer charge whatever the market will bear. If the buyer is some guy/gal who just signed a front-loaded guaranteed money sports contract, let him or her pay up for that new car – they can afford it. The dealer in turn will redistribute the wealth and generate commerce in the form of commissions to its salespeople, capital improvements to dealership, offset discounts on other models, dividend to the owners so they can bid on a black rhino hunt, whatever – that’s capitalism. Don't like Momentum’s pricing policy – don’t patronize them (works just as well with deceptive sales practices, see Lozzy997’ “My poor car” thread on Rennlist). Do it in sufficient numbers and they’ll succumb – not because they like you or feel they've done something morally wrong – but because it’s bad for their business.

More than complaining about having to wait in line for an iPhone, this is perhaps one of the grandest examples of WPP.

Wow... Relax Francis.. It will be ok..

Agree with just about everything you say but guess I am not as fired up about it and really don't care what a dealer charges.. More power to them.

Although there are probably some 1%er's on here I suspect there are a lot more like me... Maybe 10 percent or less.. Spend our money with some education.. That being said, some of the tightest wallet people I know are the most wealthy..

Oh yea, what dealer do you work at... Just kidding....!!!
 
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Wow... Relax Francis.. It will be ok..

Agree with just about everything you say but guess I am not as fired up about it and really don't care what a dealer charges.. More power to them.

Although there are probably some 1%er's on here I suspect there are a lot more like me... Maybe 10 percent or less.. Spend our money with some education.. That being said, some of the tightest wallet people I know are the most wealthy..

Oh yea, what dealer do you work at... Just kidding....!!!
actually I believe its more like well over 90% that spend with education. MSRP is suggested but a dealership as a franchisee has a responsibility to meet to protect the reputation of the marque. That means you dont ebay cars off or refuse to take orders with a plan to make people bid for a car, and you try to build customer loyalty. People dont get that this is not a commodity or a piece of rare art, its a car and as a "fanboy" I want the car and the company to do well, that means the sales shenanigans are a problem, Would McDonalds corporate be happy if a store said people are hungry McRib is limited so well sell each for $20 I wouldnt eat there I'd tell the to choke on it and eat a whopper. I might even never go back
 
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Originally Posted by NYC_Z06
Not sure if it's already been commented upon by others in regard to complaints of “price gouging” by high–end car dealerships but thought I'd add my observation that I find it quite ironic that 1%'ers - high net worth people that can legitimately afford to purchase a new 991 GT3 or Ferrari - take issue with one of the most fundamental tenets of capitalism – the free market. This presupposes that most 1%'ers on this forum abhor anything remotely similar to socialism or communism (anecdotally supported by a vast amount of commentary on this forum). Yet to propose that dealers sell for MSRP (“S” = suggested) strikes me as a demand for price fixing (albeit, non-government imposed). Why? Let the dealer charge whatever the market will bear. If the buyer is some guy/gal who just signed a front-loaded guaranteed money sports contract, let him or her pay up for that new car – they can afford it. The dealer in turn will redistribute the wealth and generate commerce in the form of commissions to its salespeople, capital improvements to dealership, offset discounts on other models, dividend to the owners so they can bid on a black rhino hunt, whatever – that’s capitalism. Don't like Momentum’s pricing policy – don’t patronize them (works just as well with deceptive sales practices, see Lozzy997’ “My poor car” thread on Rennlist). Do it in sufficient numbers and they’ll succumb – not because they like you or feel they've done something morally wrong – but because it’s bad for their business.

More than complaining about having to wait in line for an iPhone, this is perhaps one of the grandest examples of WPP.

actually suggesting we pay more for a car because "we" can afford it is a form of socialism, theres a ton of reasons why dealers should stick to the MSRP, should restaurants have the same policy, I should pay more for my food than a street person? I agree about charging what the marked will bear, if one of your customers trades or sells the dealer back a car, all bets off do what you want thats secondary market. I also believe as an owner if you want to get rid of the car you should offer it back to dealer at MSRP, if they decline, sell it in whatever way you want thats your right. If I were PCNA I would cut allocations to anyone who sold at over MSRP, anyone who sold to their brother in law to flip on secondary market or anyone who sold a car to Justin Bieber, Kanye West or any Kardashian family member
 
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actually suggeting we pay more for a car because "we" can afford it is a form of socialism, theres a ton of reasons why they should stick to the MSRP, should restaurants have the same policy, I should pay more for my food than a street person? I agree about charging what the marked will bear, if one of your customers trades or sells the dealer back a car, all bets off do what you want thats secondary market. I also believe as an owner if you want to get rid of the car you should offer it back to dealer at MSRP, if they decline, sell it in whatever way you want thats your right. If I were PNA I would cut allocations to anyone who sold at over MSRP, anyone who sold to their brother in law to flip on secondary market or anyone who sold a car to Justin Bieber, Kanye West or any Kardashian family member
That was funny to me until I thought about KK caught on camera in LA driving a GT3. You're right I'd be pissed.
 
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That was funny to me until I thought about KK caught on camera in LA driving a GT3. You're right I'd be pissed.
couldnt be, Im sure she cant drive stick and her butt is too big to fit into sport seats (please no 991 GT3 PDK commentary) plus looking at her boyfriend I am sure she lacks the sense to buy a car as good as a GT3, I think shes more a Hummer kind of girl
 
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couldnt be, Im sure she cant drive stick and her butt is too big to fit into sport seats (please no 991 GT3 PDK commentary) plus looking at her boyfriend I am sure she lacks the sense to buy a car as good as a GT3, I think shes more a Hummer kind of girl
I'd put her azz in a C4S cab like every other SoCal chick.
 
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I'd put her azz in a C4S cab like every other SoCal chick.
I think she has a Panamera butt
 
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I bet most of us here are fans of capitalism. Few of us need lectures on what that is. Who cares what a dealer wants for a car. Either pay it or don't.
 
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I bet most of us here are fans of capitalism. Few of us need lectures on what that is. Who cares what a dealer wants for a car. Either pay it or don't.
What he said.
 
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