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Old 01-31-2014 | 02:55 AM
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GT3 RS 997.1 - Traction aids

Considering moving up to a 997.1 RS, trying to get an understanding of what traction aids came with that RS model, standard or as an option?

Did this model have the same as what was available with my 997.1 C4s for example. I am pretty sure it would have PASM, did it also get PSM? Was there anything else?

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Old 01-31-2014 | 02:55 PM
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Porsche_911_GT3

Lots of other data, but the 996 GT3 vs. GT3 RS deltas is about 2/3 of the way down the article.

The Porsche 911 GT3 RS is a high-performance sports car built by Porsche since 2003. It is often confused with the Porsche 911 GT3 RSR racecar of 2001 and later, which was based on the Porsche 911 GT3 R of 2000.
The RS (short for the German RennSport, literally "racing sport" in English) is mainly a carryover of the Porsche 911 GT3, albeit it is lighter thanks to a polycarbonate rear window, carbon fiber hood and rear wing. Porsche Ceramic Composite Brake (PCCB) Carbon fibre-reinforced Silicon Carbide (C/SiC) ceramic composite brakes, which are also more heat and fade resistant than the cast iron units fitted as standard, are optional.
The RS has a slightly different engine specification to the GT3. The cylinder heads of the GT3 RS have reshaped intake and exhaust ports for race homologation. Porsche claim the same 381 hp (284 kW) power output as the standard GT3 but Porsche's control dyno showed a jump to nearly 400 hp (298 kW)


One of only 140 right hand drive GT3 RS.
The RS has progressive springs rather than linear. The dampers are uprated and are between 10 and 15 percent stiffer than the normal GT3 in bounce and rebound.
The wheel carriers are totally redesigned to maximize the improved dynamic camber control. The suspension top mounts can be turned 120 degrees to a cup car position. Both front and rear control arms are adjustable. The RS is 3 mm (0.1 in) lower than the standard car.
The RS rear wing delivers 35 kg (77 lb) of downforce at 125 mph (201 km/h). The RS has ram air ducts on the engine bay which force air into the intake with 18Mb of pressure at 187 mph (301 km/h) and this is enough to create an additional 15 bhp (11 kW; 15 PS). That extra bhp cannot be homologated since the official engine output figures are certified on a dyno.
Only 140 right hand drive GT3 RS cars were built by Porsche and 113 of those were officially imported into to the UK. The GT3 RS was not sold in USA or Canada.
The original Porsche 996 GT3 RS had a production run from 2003 to 2005. The "RS" moniker, and the characteristic lightweight blue or red wheels and "GT3 RS" side stickers link the GT3 RS to historically important Porsches such as the Carrera 2.7 RS of the early 1970s.
Automobile magazines claim the GT3 RS can accelerate from 0-60 mph in about 4.3 seconds, maintain over 1.0g on the skidpad, and have a top speed of around 190 mph (306 km/h).
 
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PASM=yes
PSM= No
Traction Control=yes but it can be shut completely off.

Aside from that, your hands and feet.
 
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Is there a PSM type option available OEM or aftermarket?

Lots of great info here, thank you. Cannot see where it addresses my specific questions regarding traction aids and PSM.

Is there a PSM type option available OEM or aftermarket?
 
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Old 02-02-2014 | 10:39 AM
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I do agree, but want to put a young fella in the car

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PASM=yes
PSM= No
Traction Control=yes but it can be shut completely off.

Aside from that, your hands and feet.
I do completely agree, I am old school and do all adjustment from the steering wheel but it is likely my young son will probably only ever drive modern cars with some form of electronic assistance. I am kinda reluctant to let him loose on a race track in a non PSM equipped RS and was therefore hoping that there might be an electronic upgrade or option available.

A later Gen 2 GT3RS is probably outside my budget and current thinking may lead me to purchase a Gen 2 997 GT3 instead.
 
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The info posted above by Cingulus appears to be on the 996-based GT3/RS, and not the 997 you inquired about. The figures and specs are considerably different for the 997 from what is written above (415 to 420 hp depending on the source, for one example). In regards to your questions, the traction control is amazing in how it helps keep my 997.1RS under control. The only time I turn it off is when I want to purposely make the rear end break loose, and it will do it in a blink of an eye when it is switched off. The Sport button enables one level of stability control, and it seems to me to be a usable feature. The other level, enabled by pushing the button that has a shock icon on it, seems over the top. The car jumps around on any bump, and I rarely if ever utilize it. Porsche says in the manual to use it on smooth pavement, and that is not an understatement. Stick with the RS, you will get out of the car each and every time with a stupid grin on your face. More challenging to drive maybe than the regular GT3, but well worth it.
 

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Porsche says in the manual to use it on smooth pavement, and that is not an understatement.
Couldnt agree more!!!
 
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Originally Posted by Megathumper
I do completely agree, I am old school and do all adjustment from the steering wheel but it is likely my young son will probably only ever drive modern cars with some form of electronic assistance. I am kinda reluctant to let him loose on a race track in a non PSM equipped RS and was therefore hoping that there might be an electronic upgrade or option available.
^get him coaching or at least send him to a driving course. Best mod money can buy.
 
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