GT2 RS/GT3 RS Advice Needed
#1
GT2 RS/GT3 RS Advice Needed
This is undoubtedly a nice dilemma to have but I'm struggling with it and would like to hear some other perspectives. The short story is I unexpectedly had the opportunity to acquire a GT2 RS last fall and sold my 997.2 GT3 to do so.
I intend to use it often as a daily driver around town and get it out to the track come spring/summer. But I'm struggling with a few things . . . (1) being a limited production (one of 500 worldwide produced) am I crazy to use it as a DD and track car? (2) I'm pretty new to the track and am far from an experienced driver. I'm also concerned that the hp combined with the non-linear power delivery of a boosted engine might be too much for me to safely handle on the track. (3) As thrillingly fast as this beast is, I still find myself missing the visceral experience of the GT3 screaming towards 9,000 rpm.
i have the opportunity to trade my 2RS on a 3.8 GT3 RS (not the best deal but fair). There also seem to be plenty of 3.8 3RS available so I could always try to sell my 2RS and and hopefully get some more back from it. Another option is I can wait and can get the 991 GT3 RS if--and it's a bit IF--my local dealer gets an allocation. BUT . . . am I crazy to let go of such a special car??
I intend to use it often as a daily driver around town and get it out to the track come spring/summer. But I'm struggling with a few things . . . (1) being a limited production (one of 500 worldwide produced) am I crazy to use it as a DD and track car? (2) I'm pretty new to the track and am far from an experienced driver. I'm also concerned that the hp combined with the non-linear power delivery of a boosted engine might be too much for me to safely handle on the track. (3) As thrillingly fast as this beast is, I still find myself missing the visceral experience of the GT3 screaming towards 9,000 rpm.
i have the opportunity to trade my 2RS on a 3.8 GT3 RS (not the best deal but fair). There also seem to be plenty of 3.8 3RS available so I could always try to sell my 2RS and and hopefully get some more back from it. Another option is I can wait and can get the 991 GT3 RS if--and it's a bit IF--my local dealer gets an allocation. BUT . . . am I crazy to let go of such a special car??
#2
Did you track the GT3 often? How much track are you talking about for the 2RS? Never driven a GT2RS but I'd guess it's not as much fun tracking a car you're scared of(not passing judgement on your driving abilities) and especially if it's a low-production collector car. But if you're just talking about a couple of times/yr why not give it some healthy respect and go for it? Bottom line is I think it depends on how much track you are talking about. Just one point of view.
#3
Did you track the GT3 often? How much track are you talking about for the 2RS? Never driven a GT2RS but I'd guess it's not as much fun tracking a car you're scared of(not passing judgement on your driving abilities) and especially if it's a low-production collector car. But if you're just talking about a couple of times/yr why not give it some healthy respect and go for it? Bottom line is I think it depends on how much track you are talking about. Just one point of view.
#4
tgator: Please tell me that the offer to trade your 2RS for a 3RS comes with a bag filled with a $100K in cash? If not, run away!!!!
I've not driven the 2RS but have driven the other 3 variants. My thoughts:
1. If you are trying to preserve the value of the 2RS, buy a 996 GT3 already setup for track and keep the 2RS. The 996's are awesome and they've hit their depreciation floor. You could drive it a couple of years and sell without penalty. Your 2RS is likely an appreciating asset you can drive. Enjoy it.
2. If you don't care about preserving value and you just want the greatest driving experience Porsche has to offer, track the 2RS and enjoy. Unless you're already a seasoned driver, I'd suggest some qualified coaching though to understand car dynamics and exploit it's capabilities.
The 3RS may very well be top of market right now and the 2RS probably mid/bottom. Not sure I would jump right now.
I've not driven the 2RS but have driven the other 3 variants. My thoughts:
1. If you are trying to preserve the value of the 2RS, buy a 996 GT3 already setup for track and keep the 2RS. The 996's are awesome and they've hit their depreciation floor. You could drive it a couple of years and sell without penalty. Your 2RS is likely an appreciating asset you can drive. Enjoy it.
2. If you don't care about preserving value and you just want the greatest driving experience Porsche has to offer, track the 2RS and enjoy. Unless you're already a seasoned driver, I'd suggest some qualified coaching though to understand car dynamics and exploit it's capabilities.
The 3RS may very well be top of market right now and the 2RS probably mid/bottom. Not sure I would jump right now.
#5
tgator: Please tell me that the offer to trade your 2RS for a 3RS comes with a bag filled with a $100K in cash? If not, run away!!!!
I've not driven the 2RS but have driven the other 3 variants. My thoughts:
1. If you are trying to preserve the value of the 2RS, buy a 996 GT3 already setup for track and keep the 2RS. The 996's are awesome and they've hit their depreciation floor. You could drive it a couple of years and sell without penalty. Your 2RS is likely an appreciating asset you can drive. Enjoy it.
2. If you don't care about preserving value and you just want the greatest driving experience Porsche has to offer, track the 2RS and enjoy. Unless you're already a seasoned driver, I'd suggest some qualified coaching though to understand car dynamics and exploit it's capabilities.
The 3RS may very well be top of market right now and the 2RS probably mid/bottom. Not sure I would jump right now.
I've not driven the 2RS but have driven the other 3 variants. My thoughts:
1. If you are trying to preserve the value of the 2RS, buy a 996 GT3 already setup for track and keep the 2RS. The 996's are awesome and they've hit their depreciation floor. You could drive it a couple of years and sell without penalty. Your 2RS is likely an appreciating asset you can drive. Enjoy it.
2. If you don't care about preserving value and you just want the greatest driving experience Porsche has to offer, track the 2RS and enjoy. Unless you're already a seasoned driver, I'd suggest some qualified coaching though to understand car dynamics and exploit it's capabilities.
The 3RS may very well be top of market right now and the 2RS probably mid/bottom. Not sure I would jump right now.
2. Preserving the value isn't my #1 concern. I didn't buy it as an investment but rather because it was an opportunity to get a very special 911 and the one of the last Mezgers. But that being said, I don't want to ruin it by treating it like a beater, either.
3. You're definitely right about the 3RS pricing right now (the 4.0 are insane) and it's hard to gauge the 2RS market. Only I've seen for sale is on Dupont Registry and seem to overreach but who knows--it's the only one for sale.
But I think you've nailed it--it's not that I dislike the forced indiction car, I just really like the naturally aspirated, too. i do need both! PM me for my wife's #
#6
I'll give her cell to my wife. Maybe they can work out a compromise.
If it's only a couple of times a year, what about just doing PSDS and/or cup car experience or Bondurant? Also, running out of garage space should never be an excuse for curtailing a car habit. There are options
If it's only a couple of times a year, what about just doing PSDS and/or cup car experience or Bondurant? Also, running out of garage space should never be an excuse for curtailing a car habit. There are options
#7
Keep the 2RS. I have had mine on the track and it is a blast -- just get used to it before you go nuts. It is, so far, the best Porsche I have owned with 28 previous turbos in the past 38 years. Have fun.
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#9
Rule 1 on the track is don't track a car you can't afford to put into the wall.
Having said that, I'd still highly advise against tracking that car until you learn in something more manageable. My two cents: It's not safe for you or the car. If you do decide to do it anyway, definitely buy track insurance for at least the first year.
Having said that, I'd still highly advise against tracking that car until you learn in something more manageable. My two cents: It's not safe for you or the car. If you do decide to do it anyway, definitely buy track insurance for at least the first year.
#11
Rule 1 on the track is don't track a car you can't afford to put into the wall.
Having said that, I'd still highly advise against tracking that car until you learn in something more manageable. My two cents: It's not safe for you or the car. If you do decide to do it anyway, definitely buy track insurance for at least the first year.
Having said that, I'd still highly advise against tracking that car until you learn in something more manageable. My two cents: It's not safe for you or the car. If you do decide to do it anyway, definitely buy track insurance for at least the first year.
thanks for the input from everyone.
#12
Buy an s2000 to track, you will have a blast! I just bought one, installed with KW v3, 285s tires. Handles like its on rails and so much fun to drive.
But whatever you do, do not sell/trade the GT2RS
But whatever you do, do not sell/trade the GT2RS
#14
I repsectfully disagree with konakai saying it's not safe to track the car. Is it the ideal learner car? Of course not. But it's what you have, and it's an epic car that you should learn more about. Pick an event with a reputable group, Treat it with the utmost respect, listen to your instructor, absolutely leave the driver aids ON, don't try to be a hero, work your way up to speed slowly and you will be fine.
And fyi, track insurance only covers up to 140k last time I checked about 3 wks ago.
And fyi, track insurance only covers up to 140k last time I checked about 3 wks ago.
#15
The GT2RS is one of the best cars Porsche has ever made. Use it as the engineers intended and enjoy it.
The only things I would even consider trading for would be a Carrera GT or a GT3 4.0. And probably not the 4.0 at current prices. Although I might trade it for a GT2 and $100k. Nothing wrong with a big bag-o-cash!
The only things I would even consider trading for would be a Carrera GT or a GT3 4.0. And probably not the 4.0 at current prices. Although I might trade it for a GT2 and $100k. Nothing wrong with a big bag-o-cash!