Maybe because the F430 is over rated and does not out preform the Gallardo, yet cost 50K more with markup.

 

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Arling you must be an excellent driver for choosing the GT2. I personally took the GT3 over GT2. The GT2 is obviously FASTER on the straight line (as Z06 will be) the reality is I feel much more confident (and drive much faster) in a GT3 so that was the obvious choice for me. Also keep in mind that a GT3 at 500hp is a MINUTE faster than the CGT, the GT2 and the Z06 around the ring. It is by far the best handling, most confidence inspiring production car in the world.

People that can't drive will save $30K and get a Z06. People that can drive and get the Z06 could still end up like this becase its a Chevy after all.

 

BBS racing.

 

no i'm not. in fact, i did the same thing went from GT2 to GT3, but this thread is not about GT2 & 3 but GT2 & Z. i think u nailed what i want to say. i'm not PRO driver so the Z simply offered no confidence to me compare to any Porsche. i felt like going 150mph when i was doing 100 in the Z while i was doing 150s in the GT2 or 3 felt like 100. that reminds me of my brother's old Viper GTS alot.

again, i'm not talking the Z down in anyway & for the buck u can't beat it. however, i really don't see the Porsche GTs owners would be happy with the car. it's just not there yet.

 

Yes, I have the C5Z. I will describe the experience for you. You exit the highway at 100MPH as the Beamer settles into a sharp offramp without effort. You are surrounded in European quality leather and Bose sound. A couple of stop lights later you maneuver around vans, trucks and minivans finding your way into a Chevy dealership. As you step out there is a strange odor in the air (former customer left a diaper in the trash can) and a used car salesman type shows up with an animated tie. As you walk up to the Z you can’t help notice waves in the bodywork and uneven body gaps. The door hesitates to open because it doesn’t fit right and you have to laugh when you see the seats. Inside cheap plastic awaits you. When its your turn to drive you notice everything is clunky .. the controls the seat adjustment .. even the rearview mirror is shaped wrong. The motor sounds OK … lots of power there .. but the tranny obviously came from a pickup truck. As we build up speed the used car salesman begins to perspire and panic and for good reason … this thing isn’t safe at any speed. So would I care for 100hp more. I felt the C5Z was dangerously overpowered.

Sorry but GM has no business selling serious cars. Their competition is Japenese commodity cars and they are going bankrupt because of it. A lot of people are unfortunately going to die in the C6Z.

 

i see where u coming from but i think differently.

people that CAN drive will save $30k get a Z06 & beating Porsche all day long on track (public road/fwy racing is not acceptable & stupid). in a PRO's hand the Z is proven faster regardless it's a Chevy or not. i accept & respect that. however, i'm no way near a PRO but maybe an above-avg normal driver therefore i feel safer, more comforable in the Pcar because it offset my confidence level better than while i'm in the Z. having say that my point is base on my skill of driving i'm not to the level where i can comfortably pushing the Z to the Pcar level therefore it's not better car to me, not because it's a Chevy - but i like ur truck tranny part. i think u're right. have to edit it.

on the side note, with today's easy access to those ultra high performance cars we're going to see more tragic accidents than ever. one can spend 70k to be the fastest out there but the skill is priceless. i hope those who enjoy proving, kill themselves first before they run into someone innocent.

 

Arling I think we are all guilty of going fast at one time or another. It's murder making 500hp available in an unstable platform to kids at $30K in a couple of years when used Z prices drop through the floor. Still recall an accident passing through Julian a couple of years back where a Vette T-boned a Toyota .. family of four in tears and blood on the roadside.

 

ohh i do that all the time but i gotta say what i have to say. my right foot is on the mind of its own luckily both of my hands still listen to the brain.

 

No plans to drive a C6Z ever .. my life is worth far more than $30k in savings. Plus, the only Z06 advantage is 0 to 60, something that will interest boy racers. My challenge right now is mastering the most precision track proven machine on the planet and 400hp is more than sufficient. Replacement for this machine will be a sequential geared 997GT3 possibly cup car. The Z car is suited for Porsche and Ferrari wannabes. My question for you is how much track experience do you have and have you driven a GT2/GT3?

 

Yehaw, don't bother arguing w/ quartermile...just do a search through his posts and you'll understand why.


ibhe brings in bankruptcy issues



edit: he beat me to it

 

OK just for reference I have thousands of miles of track time on the GT3/GT2/M3 and would never go back to a front engined car again. May be fine for pros but not for me. BTW didn’t the GM parts supplier just go bankrupt? I am sure that gives you warm fuzzies about racing GM products. Also, what is a safety red Herring for you is a nightmare as far as I am concerned. One of my best friends perished in what I consider a major design flaw of the CGT not too long ago. So if you think I am bashing your beloved Chevy alone on safety you are misunderstood.

Frogot to mention if you have no safety issue with the Z... the car was made specially for you.

 

they both perform very similar, until maybe the SE or next hp increase for the G. must say though the ergonomic of the G is terrible and never pay markup so that's out of the equation.

since there's no good inputs, let's get back to the topic...gt2 feels better than z06, but z06 = performance bargain.

 

How do the BBS motorsport wheels hold up on the street?

 

On the side note, with today's easy access to those ultra high performance cars we're going to see more tragic accidents than ever. one can spend 70k to be the fastest out there but the skill is priceless. i hope those who enjoy proving, kill themselves first before they run into someone innocent. [/B][/QUOTE]


Well said!