herein lies the heart of the matter. a 997 gt2 for 65 would definitely be my preference over the Z.

but now we know the 997 TT is a FAT PIG at 3520#, being over priced is not the only problem the next GT2 will have.

 

Please put down the crack pipe and get back into your 381hp world-beater! Where on earth did you hear that an otherwise stock 996 GT3 with 500hp can lap the 'Ring in ~6:35? A stock CGT would make a 500hp GT3 look like silly, but perhaps you don't have much seat time in a CGT? If you can drive faster in your GT3 than in a GT2 I imagine a CGT would scare the **** out of you!

What on earth do you mean in this comment "People that can't drive will save $30K and get a Z06."? Are you implying that GT3 owners are better drivers than Z06 owners? That is a very humble and intelligent statement, bravo! Just because YOU can't manage a high-powered front engine car it doesn't mean that the rest of the world shouldn't take advantage of what the Chevy boys have to offer.

Have fun in your GT3, but please watch your mirrors, C6 Z06 owners will be flashing to pass

 

arling's getting a g?Hey i want a ride

 

It’s funny that the ringmaster should ask me for ring times. The time I was referring to is:
7:01 --- 176.152 km/h -- Manthey Porsche GT3 race car, 493 hp (2004), http://www.manthey-motors.de/ The catch is there really isn’t too much difference between a GT3 and a GT3 race car … just lightened with upgraded suspension, tires and motor.

 

Oh oh... here we go again... another GT3 vs Vettes vs whatever... oh boy...

When will we learn that there is NO mine-is-better-than-yours???? You buy what you like and what makes you feel better and what makes your driving experience more enjoyable... geeezzzzzzzzzz!!!!!

 

With all due respect, I am really not sure you understand the difference between Manthey's GT3-MR and a stock street GT3. I am a die hard Porsche fan, believe me... but I do believe that your comments are off-base.

It is basically the difference between a Z06 and the C6R... i.e. not even close except for a few body panels that look the same. This is also like saying that your street GT3 is not far off from a factory GT3-RSR... it's not even close. The street GT3-RS is far closer, due to the major changes in suspension geometry and parts.

Also, do remember that Jurgen Alzen set a Ring record during the VLN 24H Nurburgring using a modified Turbo/GT2 platform with 700hp. Manthey also has a modified 996 GT2 as well that runs circles around their race GT3's. The GT2 is a faster car than the GT3, period. I own both, so I think I can sorta comment on this as well.

What exactly is the major design flaw of the CGT that you believe caused our friend's death?

 

So you're saying that a 996 GT2 for 65 would NOT be your preference over the Z?

And does this mean that you will walk away from your 997 GT2 slot?

On both counts, I think not.

The GT2 will always be lighter than its Turbo counterpart, and as soon as you take delivery, me thinks that you will look back at the Z06 for what it is (your words)... the Bic lighter of sports cars!

 

not much of a difference? One's a full out race car, the other isn't

http://www.manthey-motors.de/nextsho...pdf.asp?id=217

 

My understanding is street GT3 to Manthey GT3 is the same as M3 to M3 GTR i.e. a street chassis with upgraded componets ... I think the sequential gearbox is the main difference. Another words a 500hp GT3 cup car. FYI I was in the process of building a GTR but decided I wasn't ready for one. Of course the Vette guys will have no problem with the 400hp GTR ... they are already at 500hp

 

Damm interesting debate.. The Z06 to me is a great car, but i am learning so many inpurities about it, especially cutting cost's and using all left sided rotors for the C6Z51's and the C6 Z06's, that's ridiculous!

Anyway , no one asnwered the BBS question so i will... They are BBS LM-GT's, its their magnesium race inspired wheel, Sharky just got them in Gold and they are by far probably my favorite wheels ever.. Street driveability isnt recommended due tot he magnesium center of the wheel, it is extremely easy to bend on the street! BBS wouldnt sell themt o me because they said they would get ruined in NY LOL..

 

Not true. The BBS multipiece race wheels now have forged aluminum centers (through a new forging process) which are approx. the same weight as the former magnesium center ones. The mag center wheels are no longer made by BBS, because apparently the race teams were sick of cracked wheels.

 

if i'm not mistaken the car you are talking about is the same car Manthey competitivly races. So I'd think it's obvious it's far from being similiar to a street GT3. It's a Cup Car isn't it?

 

Hmm thanks for the update, they didnt tell me that and i was unaware

 

Wonder how much our favorite friend wants for your former, now battered and rolled, ex-SY GT2.

Yes, Bics and Vettes are especially useful when they come in rainbow colors and can be bought at Costco in bulk.

 

I don't know...a Z with a race tuned suspension and slicks would be tough to beat on the track...jmho though. I would feel better about smashing up a Z vs. an expensive Porsche like a GT3 or Gt2 or even a TT for that matter. Meeze thinks that a used C5 Z06 could be had for cheap, stripped and well sorted with race seats, cage, suspension, brakes, ect...It would be tough for most Porsche's to keep up...