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Old 11-08-2005 | 03:58 PM
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My understanding is street GT3 to Manthey GT3 is the same as M3 to M3 GTR i.e. a street chassis with upgraded componets ... I think the sequential gearbox is the main difference. Another words a 500hp GT3 cup car. FYI I was in the process of building a GTR but decided I wasn't ready for one. Of course the Vette guys will have no problem with the 400hp GTR ... they are already at 500hp
Oh crap, you're starting to bury yourself now. Quit digging. The M3 and the M3 GTR are similar in name only. The GTR costs as much as a CGT, has a V8 engine, weighs 1000 fewer pounds and is, well, a totally different car. Those two cars have an even bigger delta than the Manthey GT3-MR and the street GT3. Oh **** . . .

 
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MWM, I still can't figure out why we even respond to him. I keep thinking one of these days he'll redeem himself w/ something usefull, or atleast logical
 
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Oh crap, you're starting to bury yourself now. Quit digging. The M3 and the M3 GTR are similar in name only. The GTR costs as much as a CGT, has a V8 engine, weighs 1000 fewer pounds and is, well, a totally different car. Those two cars have an even bigger delta than the Manthey GT3-MR and the street GT3. Oh **** . . .

LOL, that was such a horrible example for him to use, M3/M3 GTR.. Even the road going GTR is a way different car
 
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Old 11-08-2005 | 06:13 PM
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Originally posted by yehaw
The directional vane issue?

To solve the split between those who think no issue to the sky-is-falling crowd, I would like to see temperature data for a hot-lapped car repeated many times. Big differences side-to-side would say it's a big deal. But I'm sure GM has done this and didn't see big deltas. I could be way wrong. But GM looks dumb nonetheless.
My thoughts exactly. GM looks bad on this, but is there really a difference at hand? I'd love to see if it causes any complications, because I highly doubt it will. THey should just start rebadging half the Left rotors with an R They obviously did extensive testing on this car, if it made a difference, I think they would of solved it a long time ago (even if it was to just "save" costs); brakes are a dangerous thing. They'd be stupid to do what they are doing if it actually caused problems.


From reading over on Corvetteforums, seems non of the serious guys are worried about it. But we'll see non-the-less.



IllM3, what other "impurities" have you found, you state there are many With that said, it's also in it's first year of production, problems are bound to happen. But I haven't heard of anything somewhat serious (although we'll see how this brake thing works out) as of yet.
 

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Old 11-08-2005 | 06:21 PM
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Hamann7 is correct.

The wheels pictured on my GT2 are BBS Motorsport racing wheels with forged aluminum centers in 18" x 8.5" and 12".

The Z06 is a wonderful car and I applaud GM for making it, especially in the high liability times we live in. If I had more garage space, I would buy one! I think the GT2 is rare, wild and requires your full attention. The Z06 is not rare and most cannot tell it from the standard C6. To me, the GT3 is underpowered and I personally would rather have the Z06 or GT2 just for the power.

Just my 2 cents.
 
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Originally posted by yehaw
The directional vane issue?

To solve the split between those who think no issue to the sky-is-falling crowd, I would like to see temperature data for a hot-lapped car repeated many times. Big differences side-to-side would say it's a big deal. But I'm sure GM has done this and didn't see big deltas. I could be way wrong. But GM looks dumb nonetheless.
Hey you guys are misunderstanding what im saying, exactly what you said id oubt it will make a huge difference if any at all, they just look ridiculous doing that!
 
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Originally posted by iLLM3
Hey you guys are misunderstanding what im saying, exactly what you said id oubt it will make a huge difference if any at all, they just look ridiculous doing that!

true, they look stupid. BUt if it's not a problem, do they really look dumb? Had they just badged half the brakes left and half right, would anyone have ever even noticed? Had they done that, would we be sitting here having this conversation? Nope. It doesn't at all take away from the car though, and what GM has created




That said, do you now mean there are no other complications you have heard of?
 
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Originally posted by HotRodGuy
true, they look stupid. BUt if it's not a problem, do they really look dumb? Had they just badged half the brakes left and half right, would anyone have ever even noticed? Had they done that, would we be sitting here having this conversation? Nope. It doesn't at all take away from the car though, and what GM has created




That said, do you now mean there are no other complications you have heard of?
You know what your exactly right, we wouldnt be on here having this convo.. Yes i have heard of other minor little things in fit and finish or w/e but that does not mean its a bad car nor did i ever say it was
 
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BTW - I love that picture!!!! Very creative!
 
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Arling,

BTW - I love that picture!!!! Very creative!

btw, your car is ****in beautifull!
 
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show me a 996 GT2 for 65 that hasnt been rolled twice?

and Bic lighters are very useful, so are Z's
Don't use the bic to light cigars though. Butane will ruin it.

 
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Old 11-09-2005 | 07:19 AM
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Don't use the bic to light cigars though. Butane will ruin it.

lol not necessarly...you have to light it with the heat created by the flame, not the flame itself.
 
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Old 11-09-2005 | 08:03 AM
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Originally posted by MWM
The M3 and the M3 GTR are similar in name only. The GTR costs as much as a CGT, has a V8 engine, weighs 1000 fewer pounds and is, well, a totally different car. Those two cars have an even bigger delta than the Manthey GT3-MR and the street GT3.
Ha ha .. seems like I ruffled a few feathers here. As far as weight goes a GT3 cup comes in around 2500 lbs, only 75lbs difference with a GTR. Stick a 493 motor in there and bye bye CGT. That's all a Manthey GT3-MR is. The GT3 is alot closer to the GT3 cup than M3 vs. GTR completely agreed. Weight reducing a GT2 is the next best option but I would think 2500lbs would be impossible.

 

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