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Old 12-10-2005 | 09:39 PM
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A Tragic Reminder

2 nights ago just down the street from my home a 16 year old girl was racing her boyfriend down Coto Drive, she lost control and slammed into a tree. She died at the scene and these pictures remind us that racing is for the track. The impact was so great that the rear wheels are suspended in air.
 
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Everyone give your kids a big hug today because this shows how quickly and innocently they can be taken away. Very sad.
 
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Prayers are out to her and her family.
 
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Horrible to see that happen - could have been so easily avoided.

My condolences to her friends and family.
 
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my condolences as well

I couldnt imagine being the bf.....
 
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Everyone give your kids a big hug today because this shows how quickly and innocently they can be taken away. Very sad.
While you're at, you might want to tell them not be stupid.
 
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Tragic. Talk to your kids and practice what you preach (or don't let them see you driving wrecklessly).

Tragic.
 
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that ****in sux, RIP
 
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Old 12-11-2005 | 10:08 PM
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Originally posted by Alex
Tragic. Talk to your kids and practice what you preach (or don't let them see you driving wrecklessly).
Tragic.
Well said. I just got into an accident yesterday night and my old man's car is toast. No matter how good a driver your kid is, an occasional reminder doesn't hurt..no matter how much we moan and groan about it. Even an accidental rookie mistake can have bad unforseen consequences. I'd rather be embarassed/annoyed by having someone check in on me once in a while than having 2 pay out buttloads of $ to insurence later on...or worse...

That accident in the pics is truely terrible...i couldn't imagine how i'd feel if my gf was killed in a car accident.

RIP 2 her and condolences 2 the family.
 
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Old 12-11-2005 | 10:30 PM
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Tragic. Life and dreams thrown away. Years of growing, development, sacrifice and perseverance squandered. Love and family never fulfilled.

Driver's License qualification testing is ridiculously negligent in the U.S. If you haven't already, take it upon yourself to have all drivers in the household trained in private schools for accident-avoidance, high-performance driving, etc. Drivers speed, that's reality. Learning how to handle a car at speed and in a skid is critically important. Additionally, many drivers, upon being exposed to high speed maneuvers in school learn respect for speed and reaction time, and have more knowledge with which to make decisions on the street. And in a potential accident scenario, I'd bet a well-trained driver has a significantly better chance of lessening the severity of outcome through their reactions to the situation, and preventative measures to avoid it in the first place. Knowledge is key. Keep your kids ignorant and let them drive, and you're gambling with their lives. Outranked in foolishness only by handing them a gun with no training.

My kids are going to learn to control a vehicle in karting, then in driver training school soon as they are of age. I want them to enjoy driving, and have the skill and knowledge to make responsible and prudent decisions, and to be their own lifesaver should the situation require it.
 
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Tragic. Life and dreams thrown away. Years of growing, development, sacrifice and perseverance squandered. Love and family never fulfilled.

Driver's License qualification testing is ridiculously negligent in the U.S. If you haven't already, take it upon yourself to have all drivers in the household trained in private schools for accident-avoidance, high-performance driving, etc. Drivers speed, that's reality. Learning how to handle a car at speed and in a skid is critically important. Additionally, many drivers, upon being exposed to high speed maneuvers in school learn respect for speed and reaction time, and have more knowledge with which to make decisions on the street. And in a potential accident scenario, I'd bet a well-trained driver has a significantly better chance of lessening the severity of outcome through their reactions to the situation, and preventative measures to avoid it in the first place. Knowledge is key. Keep your kids ignorant and let them drive, and you're gambling with their lives. Outranked in foolishness only by handing them a gun with no training.

My kids are going to learn to control a vehicle in karting, then in driver training school soon as they are of age. I want them to enjoy driving, and have the skill and knowledge to make responsible and prudent decisions, and to be their own lifesaver should the situation require it.
While I agree that it is vital to know the physics involved with a vehicle and how to control one, this is sheer stupidity. I feel horrible for the people she/he affected, but I cannot offer my sympathy for someone who street races. If you're old enough to drive, you have the mental capacity to know what you should/shouldn't be doing.
 
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While I agree that it is vital to know the physics involved with a vehicle and how to control one, this is sheer stupidity. I feel horrible for the people she/he affected, but I cannot offer my sympathy for someone who street races. If you're old enough to drive, you have the mental capacity to know what you should/shouldn't be doing.
young people dont realize that this can happen to them. Its not stupidity, its ignorance.
 
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Originally posted by Ryan in SD
young people dont realize that this can happen to them. Its not stupidity, its ignorance.
One and the same...
 
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Old 12-12-2005 | 09:18 AM
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Disagree. Teaching your loved ones mastery of their tools is essential. Rules for using them is another discussion, and good sense would dictate that one of the main rules would be not to race on the street. While this may appear obvious, the fact is that young people often disregard authority and test their limits in many ways. This is when knowledge and experience can affect their decisions, and the outcome. And, this is when in absence of knowledge and experience, it becomes a gamble. You put two 17yr-olds in that situation of opportunity to speed, one with knowledge and experience, one without, and see which one has the better shot at thorough decision-making and most importantly staying alive. I put my money on the well-trained one.

Btw, there are exceptions to every rule. Some kids that attend martial arts studios go out and beat people up. Some trained track racers go out and race on the street. The variable there is quality of parenting and other influences, and the natural tendencies of the individual.
 


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