997GT3 or C6 Z06
#136
11-29-2006, 06:20 PM
9Eleven, you wouldn't happen to be from MI, would you? I would love to run against a lightly modded GT2 like yours in my Z06. I think it would be a great race.
Also, is there any way you can get some 50-125, or 55-125 readings on your GPS system and report back to us?
Also, is there any way you can get some 50-125, or 55-125 readings on your GPS system and report back to us?
#137
11-29-2006, 07:01 PM
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I live in Maryland. The Racelogic belongs to KPG. He lives in Michigan. 60 - 130 is the accepted time. I think 5 miles an hour on the plus or minus on your vette wouldn't make a difference, but the additional power to 130 mph will. The box is programed for 60 - 130. Just let me know when you want to borrow it and I will impose on KPG's good will. If you are ever in Maryland send me a PM. I would love to see any graphs if 1999Porsche911 has them. Nobody is under estimating the Z06, I just want to see real numbers. If you know a vette owner in Maryland have him contact me via PM.
#138
11-29-2006, 09:31 PM
Originally Posted by SCvet00
Agreed. And not because I am a Z06 owner, but because that is really how to tell what car is quicker. Get the two cars out, race them a few times, and see the outcome. This is exactly what I have done and the 997 TT will never beat a Z06, stock vs. stock, with equal drivers, from a roll. It will be close from 0-100 just because traction is a bit*h in the Z06, but past that, the Z06 will run away.
I don't understand why it is so hard to undertand this. A Protomotive 997 TT could barely barely match the trap speeds of a bone stock C6 Z06. It trapped at 124.9, which is, on average what bone stock Z06s trap at. My buddy, who has NEVER drag raced my car, was able to trap at 125.6 mph in it (I have the timeslip and can post it if you would like, although I would have to get it from him since he has it and is loving it in his wallet, LOL). I trapped at an almost 125 mph (look at previous post w/ timeslipe) MY FIRST TRY EVER in 80* heat and 650' above sea level conditions.
I understand you guys (PorscheC4) are passionate about Porsches, as I am about Corvettes or any awesome car for that matter, but for the love of god, don't let passion get in the way with real world facts. A 997 TT is the slower car than the Z06, and that is a fact. Does that make the Z06 the better car? No, I never said that and never will. But when it comes to strictly speed, the fact is that the Z06 is the faster car, period. Ask ANYONE that has had both and are not biased, like "Treynor", and they will tell you the same.
I don't understand why it is so hard to undertand this. A Protomotive 997 TT could barely barely match the trap speeds of a bone stock C6 Z06. It trapped at 124.9, which is, on average what bone stock Z06s trap at. My buddy, who has NEVER drag raced my car, was able to trap at 125.6 mph in it (I have the timeslip and can post it if you would like, although I would have to get it from him since he has it and is loving it in his wallet, LOL). I trapped at an almost 125 mph (look at previous post w/ timeslipe) MY FIRST TRY EVER in 80* heat and 650' above sea level conditions.
I understand you guys (PorscheC4) are passionate about Porsches, as I am about Corvettes or any awesome car for that matter, but for the love of god, don't let passion get in the way with real world facts. A 997 TT is the slower car than the Z06, and that is a fact. Does that make the Z06 the better car? No, I never said that and never will. But when it comes to strictly speed, the fact is that the Z06 is the faster car, period. Ask ANYONE that has had both and are not biased, like "Treynor", and they will tell you the same.
either way, you should take the offer onnthe racelogic box and run your car and see what you get.
#139
11-29-2006, 11:18 PM
Originally Posted by 9Eleven
I live in Maryland. The Racelogic belongs to KPG. He lives in Michigan. 60 - 130 is the accepted time. I think 5 miles an hour on the plus or minus on your vette wouldn't make a difference, but the additional power to 130 mph will. The box is programed for 60 - 130. Just let me know when you want to borrow it and I will impose on KPG's good will. If you are ever in Maryland send me a PM. I would love to see any graphs if 1999Porsche911 has them. Nobody is under estimating the Z06, I just want to see real numbers. If you know a vette owner in Maryland have him contact me via PM.
#141
11-29-2006, 11:52 PM
Originally Posted by SCvet00
If you can re program it from a 50-120, I will do it. Trust me, an extra shift is gonna cost me time, a lof if time, especially with me driving it..
#143
11-30-2006, 12:04 AM
Originally Posted by SCvet00
Do they have to shift 2x from 60-130? or only once?
#145
11-30-2006, 12:05 AM
Originally Posted by SCvet00
Do they have to shift 2x from 60-130? or only once?
#146
11-30-2006, 12:07 AM
Originally Posted by dr_sharp
Based on the graph posted up a few posts back, twice. 2-3 shift occurs around 72mph and there is no way that third could carry the car to 130mph.
#147
11-30-2006, 12:13 AM
Originally Posted by PorscheC4
i think that as most mags have stated, to 120 mph, the 997TT is faster.
Test #1:
http://www.automotorsport.se/biltest...615/061501.pdf
Z06 hits 200 kmh in 11.9
997 hits 200 kmh in 12.3
Test #2:
http://www.nogaroblue.com/scans/AMStopspeed10.jpg
Z06 hits 200 kmh in 11.9
997 hits 200 kmh in 12.3
Test #3:
http://www.caranddriver.com/comparis...911-turbo.html
"It matches the Z06 speed up to 120, then the Z06 pulls away"
Last edited by SCvet00; 11-30-2006 at 12:19 AM.
#148
11-30-2006, 12:22 AM
Originally Posted by SCvet00
No, this is not true. Please show me evidence.
Test #1:
http://www.automotorsport.se/biltest...615/061501.pdf
Z06 hits 200 kmh in 11.9
997 hits 200 kmh in 12.3
Test #2:
http://www.nogaroblue.com/scans/AMStopspeed10.jpg
Z06 hits 200 kmh in 11.9
997 hits 200 kmh in 12.3
Test #3:
http://www.caranddriver.com/comparis...911-turbo.html
"It matches the Z06 speed up to 120, then the Z06 pulls away"
Test #1:
http://www.automotorsport.se/biltest...615/061501.pdf
Z06 hits 200 kmh in 11.9
997 hits 200 kmh in 12.3
Test #2:
http://www.nogaroblue.com/scans/AMStopspeed10.jpg
Z06 hits 200 kmh in 11.9
997 hits 200 kmh in 12.3
Test #3:
http://www.caranddriver.com/comparis...911-turbo.html
"It matches the Z06 speed up to 120, then the Z06 pulls away"
#149
11-30-2006, 12:22 AM
Originally Posted by SCvet00
No, this is not true. Please show me evidence.
Test #1:
http://www.automotorsport.se/biltest...615/061501.pdf
Z06 hits 200 kmh in 11.9
997 hits 200 kmh in 12.3
Test #2:
http://www.nogaroblue.com/scans/AMStopspeed10.jpg
Z06 hits 200 kmh in 11.9
997 hits 200 kmh in 12.3
Test #3:
http://www.caranddriver.com/comparis...911-turbo.html
"It matches the Z06 speed up to 120, then the Z06 pulls away"
Test #1:
http://www.automotorsport.se/biltest...615/061501.pdf
Z06 hits 200 kmh in 11.9
997 hits 200 kmh in 12.3
Test #2:
http://www.nogaroblue.com/scans/AMStopspeed10.jpg
Z06 hits 200 kmh in 11.9
997 hits 200 kmh in 12.3
Test #3:
http://www.caranddriver.com/comparis...911-turbo.html
"It matches the Z06 speed up to 120, then the Z06 pulls away"
#150
11-30-2006, 12:23 AM
Originally Posted by PorscheC4
yea 3rd gear is not hitting 130. but remember the way it is being done is described in my post above.
Best thing to do is line them up and go at it, just like I have done, and the Z06 will come out on top everytime. If you don't want to believe it, that is fine. I am not gonna talk about this anymore. The Z06 is the faster/quicker car, period and that is a fact, not an opinion. They are close to 100, and that is about it, with the Z06 still having the edge with a competent driver.
Ask anyone that has both, and they will tell you the same.