Porsche crash in SF bay area
#46
coming from the 2 wheeled world... i have seen 3 friends die in a matter of 2mths.
i have seen kids with there learners license..get on a 180hp litre bike... only to read about the death 1 week later. as long as people are allowed to purchase extreme machines without proper training, this will continue...
believe it or not, alot of the young ones READ our forums for guidance... some will listen to the good "be prepared" "take coursed" "pick the time and the place"....others will say.. that dude went 100+ mph!! i want to do that next time i borrow dads GT3.
i believe we are all responsible for what we type... and i am not against any type of post... i have a couple of my own "this is what i did today" threads... but always think about who will read them and how they will interprate them
i have seen kids with there learners license..get on a 180hp litre bike... only to read about the death 1 week later. as long as people are allowed to purchase extreme machines without proper training, this will continue...
believe it or not, alot of the young ones READ our forums for guidance... some will listen to the good "be prepared" "take coursed" "pick the time and the place"....others will say.. that dude went 100+ mph!! i want to do that next time i borrow dads GT3.
i believe we are all responsible for what we type... and i am not against any type of post... i have a couple of my own "this is what i did today" threads... but always think about who will read them and how they will interprate them
#47
My God when I first read the details of this incident my heart sunk! I just sold my 2005 997S Friday afternoon to a guy (more likely in his 40's , 50's) who lives in Cupertino. He's a real nice man but seemed a bit rusty with the stick shifter and clutch. I emphasized many times to respect the power of my car and take it easy, especially the first few weeks getting use to the controls, clutch, etc. I'm releived it was not him but am saddened that 2 young men had their lives cut short because of this tragedy. RIP. Always respect the power of these vehicles. The Porsche driving experience school is a "must do" for anyone considering tapping into the limits of these automobiles! Thats Money Well Spent!! My condolences to the families....very sad.
Last edited by gradyex; 04-03-2007 at 01:15 AM.
#48
Originally Posted by Brian Haske
He's exactly right.
You know how many 16 year old come in with daddy and pick out their new turbo? Very scary to see them take off and I always think why the hell didnt they start him out with something a little less powerful.. Or the bbq when drunk daddy lets junior take the gt out for a spin... There should be some driving school requirement or law that would restrain a under experienced driver to hop in a cgt or like vehicle.
anyway, not to change the subject here, very sad story to hear about anyone dying in any sort of form. especially at this young age.
You know how many 16 year old come in with daddy and pick out their new turbo? Very scary to see them take off and I always think why the hell didnt they start him out with something a little less powerful.. Or the bbq when drunk daddy lets junior take the gt out for a spin... There should be some driving school requirement or law that would restrain a under experienced driver to hop in a cgt or like vehicle.
anyway, not to change the subject here, very sad story to hear about anyone dying in any sort of form. especially at this young age.
#49
names released
Saturday fatal crash victims from Fremont and San Jose identified
Two men killed early Saturday morning when their car spun out of control on Interstate 280 in Los Altos have been identified as Larry Lu, 26, of Fremont and Michael Nguyen Luu, 25, of San Jose.
Their 2006 black Porsche was traveling at an unknown speed north of El Monte road at about 2:50 a.m. when Lu apparently lost control on a curve, according to the California Highway Patrol. The Porsche rotated counterclockwise across five lanes before smashing into a tree. Both men were wearing seat belts, and alcohol or drugs are not suspected in the accident, according to the CHP.
www.mercurynews.com/search/ci_5575520
I did not know them but may they RIP
Two men killed early Saturday morning when their car spun out of control on Interstate 280 in Los Altos have been identified as Larry Lu, 26, of Fremont and Michael Nguyen Luu, 25, of San Jose.
Their 2006 black Porsche was traveling at an unknown speed north of El Monte road at about 2:50 a.m. when Lu apparently lost control on a curve, according to the California Highway Patrol. The Porsche rotated counterclockwise across five lanes before smashing into a tree. Both men were wearing seat belts, and alcohol or drugs are not suspected in the accident, according to the CHP.
www.mercurynews.com/search/ci_5575520
I did not know them but may they RIP
#54
just saw this, my condolences RIP.
BTW - the 'average' 26 year old driving a ultra high performance street car is and can be a dangerous combination, although an enthusiast that hopefully had some education and track experience is a totally different driver. Just to chime in... No matter how wealthy I become my son/daughter will get driver track/training and get a beater 5 yr old bmw for a first car, and not an M. They'll have to work for that one, period. It blows my mind seeing parents buying thier kids, however old they are, Lambos, Porsches and even BMW M cars. These kids/young adults don't need these cars, just another weapon they can more easily cause damage with most of the time. If they really care let them work for it and take care of what they have... It hurts to see a 20yr old kid destroy a Murcie and not give a care about it. This world is a completely different place from 20yrs back.
BTW - the 'average' 26 year old driving a ultra high performance street car is and can be a dangerous combination, although an enthusiast that hopefully had some education and track experience is a totally different driver. Just to chime in... No matter how wealthy I become my son/daughter will get driver track/training and get a beater 5 yr old bmw for a first car, and not an M. They'll have to work for that one, period. It blows my mind seeing parents buying thier kids, however old they are, Lambos, Porsches and even BMW M cars. These kids/young adults don't need these cars, just another weapon they can more easily cause damage with most of the time. If they really care let them work for it and take care of what they have... It hurts to see a 20yr old kid destroy a Murcie and not give a care about it. This world is a completely different place from 20yrs back.
#55
Originally Posted by LilBadM
just saw this, my condolences RIP.
BTW - the 'average' 26 year old driving a ultra high performance street car is and can be a dangerous combination, although an enthusiast that hopefully had some education and track experience is a totally different driver. Just to chime in... No matter how wealthy I become my son/daughter will get driver track/training and get a beater 5 yr old bmw for a first car, and not an M. They'll have to work for that one, period. It blows my mind seeing parents buying thier kids, however old they are, Lambos, Porsches and even BMW M cars. These kids/young adults don't need these cars, just another weapon they can more easily cause damage with most of the time. If they really care let them work for it and take care of what they have... It hurts to see a 20yr old kid destroy a Murcie and not give a care about it. This world is a completely different place from 20yrs back.
BTW - the 'average' 26 year old driving a ultra high performance street car is and can be a dangerous combination, although an enthusiast that hopefully had some education and track experience is a totally different driver. Just to chime in... No matter how wealthy I become my son/daughter will get driver track/training and get a beater 5 yr old bmw for a first car, and not an M. They'll have to work for that one, period. It blows my mind seeing parents buying thier kids, however old they are, Lambos, Porsches and even BMW M cars. These kids/young adults don't need these cars, just another weapon they can more easily cause damage with most of the time. If they really care let them work for it and take care of what they have... It hurts to see a 20yr old kid destroy a Murcie and not give a care about it. This world is a completely different place from 20yrs back.
well said
I think autocrossing should be mandatory as part of drivers ed. Not timing to see how fast you can go without clipping cones, but how much car control you have and can learn to have for everyday life.
#56
Originally Posted by silver_6r
coming from the 2 wheeled world... i have seen 3 friends die in a matter of 2mths.
i have seen kids with there learners license..get on a 180hp litre bike... only to read about the death 1 week later. as long as people are allowed to purchase extreme machines without proper training, this will continue...
believe it or not, alot of the young ones READ our forums for guidance... some will listen to the good "be prepared" "take coursed" "pick the time and the place"....others will say.. that dude went 100+ mph!! i want to do that next time i borrow dads GT3.
i believe we are all responsible for what we type... and i am not against any type of post... i have a couple of my own "this is what i did today" threads... but always think about who will read them and how they will interprate them
i have seen kids with there learners license..get on a 180hp litre bike... only to read about the death 1 week later. as long as people are allowed to purchase extreme machines without proper training, this will continue...
believe it or not, alot of the young ones READ our forums for guidance... some will listen to the good "be prepared" "take coursed" "pick the time and the place"....others will say.. that dude went 100+ mph!! i want to do that next time i borrow dads GT3.
i believe we are all responsible for what we type... and i am not against any type of post... i have a couple of my own "this is what i did today" threads... but always think about who will read them and how they will interprate them
I would add one additional thought. Public roads and highways are not the place to show off your driving skills or your car regardless if you attended the Porsche driving experience or done autocross. There are too many unforeseen hazards which are completely out of your control.
#57
Originally Posted by Scott '96 993c2
WOW ... that's young to be in a CGT!
You gotta wonder if the driver had any training under his belt. So sad to hear stories like this ... this is the 3rd I've read about in the past couple of weeks ... and I don't even read that much.
Scott
You gotta wonder if the driver had any training under his belt. So sad to hear stories like this ... this is the 3rd I've read about in the past couple of weeks ... and I don't even read that much.
Scott
#59
Very sad news. RIP
The trend of younger driver's can be a bit scary to all of us. FWIW I was at a driver's ed/time trial with my 914 just 4 days after my 16th bithday. So at 21, I've got 5 years of track experience, which is more than some of the older fella's here with 600+hp cars.
The trend of younger driver's can be a bit scary to all of us. FWIW I was at a driver's ed/time trial with my 914 just 4 days after my 16th bithday. So at 21, I've got 5 years of track experience, which is more than some of the older fella's here with 600+hp cars.