Very simple. Do they "perform" better than regular brakes on some regular hot laps. (Not endurance) Regular guy Hot laps. I know they las longer, but are you going to get faster lap times with the ceramics? I posted a poll and feel free to discuss your opinion.

 

Maybe on the 997 GT3! on my 996 I was not too satisfied with them. Although they were used when I bought them on the GT3...the first real upgrade was getting rid of the ceramics and putting on 997 Cup rotors with pagid pads. I have driven the newer 997 ceramics and they are much improved. I instructed along side some of the PDE guys at a porsche corporate event and they said the same thing basically...the 996 ceramics needed work, but that the new version of the ceramics offered on the 997 era cars are a dream. Apparently the PDE cars have ceramics and have been tracked for 10-15k miles without much wear!

 

i thought they offered no real upgraded stopping power over the steels, just lasted longer and were lighter?

 

The original question is....Would you get better lap times?

 

Luis I did not get better lap times! actually I did not feel as though they were worth the replacement price! Hence the reason I went with the cup rotors. I would strongly suggest against going with the original ceramics. Maybe some brembo floating rotors but I can't run them in my PCA class

 

Thanks Mo. A buddy and I are having a discussion, he says that a car equipped with PCCB's would do faster laps than the same car equipped without them because they stop better and are much lighter. I disagree on the stopping better part and think the weight difference is not enough to make a difference in a regular hot lap.

 

I agree the stopping times would not be that significant in reducing your lap times unless it was a fairly long event, or on a particularly brake-intensive course, where you would induce fade on the regualr brakes, which are already great. However don't too quickly ignore the impact of that significant reduction in unsprung weight. People spend a lot of money on track wheels to get a less significant reduction in weight than the PCCBs offer.

 

the first generation had some nasty PCCB failures. There have been some documented accounts of ceramic rotor failures that caused catastrophic damage. I actually saw a GT2 at road america have some sort of failure in his PCCBs that caused a wheel to crack and some serious damage. Not sure what it was so i can not comment more on it, but I know that there are situations where the PCCBs have had failures too. Once again though, I think porsche remedied this issue with the new generation CGT, 997 etc, so I wouldnt be worried about them now.

 

My impression was that brand new, neither are better... they're about the same. However, since PCCB lasts much longer... the "brand new" performance sticks around for much longer than the steel.

ie. Two cars, one with PCCB, one with regular brakes... drive them in exactly the same fashion, and one month later, the PCCB will out brake the regular brakes.

 

Guys, I am talking about a few hot laps not the 12 hours of Sebring.

 

Couldn't tell you. I haven't tracked it yet. However MA was quite impressed with in the 6/07 MT "best handling car" article.

 

PCCB is much better for agressive drivers

 

three words: no brake dust

enough said . . .

 

Which is interesting since the pads are PAGID (are they ceramic?)

 

In that case... if you arrive at the track with brand new brakes... I would assume that it wouldn't make much difference... however, if you don't arrive with new brakes, my money's on PCCB.