Notices
GT3/GT2 Performance and Track Discussion on the Porsche GT3 and GT2

V1 not detecting speed signs

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Rate Thread
 
  #1  
Old 07-08-2007, 08:33 PM
terrence's Avatar
Registered User
Thread Starter
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Los Angeles
Posts: 566
Rep Power: 45
terrence is a jewel in the roughterrence is a jewel in the roughterrence is a jewel in the rough
V1 not detecting speed signs

I have a question about my V1. There are a few streets around me that have these permanently-installed signs (on poles) that display speed of incoming traffic. Whenever I pass these, they always display my speed but my V1's never detect them (all three V1's in different cars). I remember two years ago they used to put up temporary devices like these on the roads (with wheels at the bases) and my V1 would detect them everytime.

Is this some new radar technology that requires us to buy some new radar detectors? Would law enforcement be using such new technology?

Thanks.
 
  #2  
Old 07-08-2007, 08:35 PM
12:03's Avatar
Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: San Francisco
Posts: 986
Rep Power: 61
12:03 has a spectacular aura about12:03 has a spectacular aura about
What setting is your V1 on? It could be such weak x band that if your V1 is on city mode it may not alert it... personally I'd be happy about that
 
  #3  
Old 07-08-2007, 08:37 PM
Jack(LA)'s Avatar
Moderator
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Los Angeles
Posts: 591
Rep Power: 45
Jack(LA) is infamous around these parts
Hi Terrence,

My V1 is still picking up those speed signs???
 
  #4  
Old 07-08-2007, 08:38 PM
terrence's Avatar
Registered User
Thread Starter
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Los Angeles
Posts: 566
Rep Power: 45
terrence is a jewel in the roughterrence is a jewel in the roughterrence is a jewel in the rough
They are all on advanced logic. Usually my V1 is so sensitive they detect everything, I can slowly drive towards and past these things and my V1 would never even "bleep" once.
 
  #5  
Old 07-08-2007, 08:42 PM
OldGuy's Avatar
Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Ridgcrest Ca
Age: 65
Posts: 1,122
Rep Power: 95
OldGuy has a reputation beyond reputeOldGuy has a reputation beyond reputeOldGuy has a reputation beyond reputeOldGuy has a reputation beyond reputeOldGuy has a reputation beyond reputeOldGuy has a reputation beyond reputeOldGuy has a reputation beyond reputeOldGuy has a reputation beyond reputeOldGuy has a reputation beyond reputeOldGuy has a reputation beyond reputeOldGuy has a reputation beyond repute
Same thing happened to me on Hwy 14 north of you. its K band and for a week my V1 didnt work on it. Then it started working again. I dont have a clue what happened. Really strange. I lost confidence in it for awhile. But it works fine now.
 
  #6  
Old 07-08-2007, 08:58 PM
Spidermonkey's Avatar
Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: SF Bay Area
Age: 53
Posts: 84
Rep Power: 21
Spidermonkey is infamous around these parts
Yes, they're all K-Band and my Escort picks em up like a mile in advance. That's odd that the Valentine is acting strange. Not very reassuring...
 
  #7  
Old 07-08-2007, 09:01 PM
Jeff_NJ's Avatar
Registered User
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: New Jersey
Age: 57
Posts: 2,680
Rep Power: 127
Jeff_NJ is a jewel in the roughJeff_NJ is a jewel in the roughJeff_NJ is a jewel in the rough
The fact that you have 3 V1's that are not alerting, that pretty much eliminates the detector as the culprit. Those speed signs are probably out of calibration. If the signal frequency drifts outside the range the V1 is designed to detect, it wont give an alert. The signs' calibration is not important to the police because they are not using them to give tickets, so they are probably not calibrating them. If they were using them for enforcement, they would be calibrated and the V1 would start detecting them. You dont need your V1 to detect signals that are not approved for giving tickets. Other detectors will pick these signals in the frequency ranges that are NOT approved for ticketing and issue an alert.
 
  #8  
Old 07-08-2007, 09:23 PM
Spidermonkey's Avatar
Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: SF Bay Area
Age: 53
Posts: 84
Rep Power: 21
Spidermonkey is infamous around these parts
No, actually it doesn't. If you've got three identical units and they're all exhibiting the same symptom then one could assume that none of the three units are working properly especially because Jack (LA)'s V1 picks up the signals. Jack (LA) did the test for you by saying his V1 does pick them up. My Escort picks them up too...Would you trust this radar detector? Not me, that's for damn sure. Never gotten a speeding ticket in my life with a radar detector and I wouldn't take the chance running with one that I don't have faith in. It's just not worth the risk.
 
  #9  
Old 07-08-2007, 09:32 PM
DrPeter's Avatar
Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Newport Beach, CA
Posts: 496
Rep Power: 41
DrPeter has a spectacular aura aboutDrPeter has a spectacular aura aboutDrPeter has a spectacular aura about
I am pretty sure those are x band signals. If your valentine is set on A, it should pick them up, but L or little L will screen them.
 
  #10  
Old 07-08-2007, 09:34 PM
L8Apex's Avatar
Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: So. CA
Posts: 1,154
Rep Power: 118
L8Apex Is a GOD !L8Apex Is a GOD !L8Apex Is a GOD !L8Apex Is a GOD !L8Apex Is a GOD !L8Apex Is a GOD !L8Apex Is a GOD !L8Apex Is a GOD !L8Apex Is a GOD !L8Apex Is a GOD !L8Apex Is a GOD !
Mine did not pick up the radar signs until it was about 25 ft away. I sent it back to Valentine and they recalibrated the V1 and it works great now. They only charged me shipping.
 
  #11  
Old 07-08-2007, 09:35 PM
Spidermonkey's Avatar
Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: SF Bay Area
Age: 53
Posts: 84
Rep Power: 21
Spidermonkey is infamous around these parts
Every single one of them I've seen in California is K band....
 
  #12  
Old 07-08-2007, 09:36 PM
Spidermonkey's Avatar
Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: SF Bay Area
Age: 53
Posts: 84
Rep Power: 21
Spidermonkey is infamous around these parts
So L8Apex just confirmed there can be issues with the V1's ability to detect the Kband signals...Not a unit I would trust.
 
  #13  
Old 07-08-2007, 09:45 PM
L8Apex's Avatar
Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: So. CA
Posts: 1,154
Rep Power: 118
L8Apex Is a GOD !L8Apex Is a GOD !L8Apex Is a GOD !L8Apex Is a GOD !L8Apex Is a GOD !L8Apex Is a GOD !L8Apex Is a GOD !L8Apex Is a GOD !L8Apex Is a GOD !L8Apex Is a GOD !L8Apex Is a GOD !
Originally Posted by Spidermonkey
So L8Apex just confirmed there can be issues with the V1's ability to detect the Kband signals...Not a unit I would trust.
I voiced my concerns too. Valentine asked how the unit was being stored? I told them it was hardwired to my wifes car which is never parked in the garage. They told me that if the temp in the car was over 100 degrees for several hours with the unit on and in direct sunlight for long periods of time (which it was) would definetly cause a calibration issue. So, now we shut the unit off and store it in the glove box when not in use. The V1 is back to normal (if not better than before) picking up laser and k bands at very long distances.
 
  #14  
Old 07-08-2007, 11:54 PM
2thfixr's Avatar
Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: BFE
Posts: 4,078
Rep Power: 190
2thfixr is a splendid one to behold2thfixr is a splendid one to behold2thfixr is a splendid one to behold2thfixr is a splendid one to behold2thfixr is a splendid one to behold2thfixr is a splendid one to behold2thfixr is a splendid one to behold
Per Mike Valentine...

1) The speed sign may employ an FM-CW modulation technique to sense the direction of vehicles in its field of view. This feature is used to isolate departing from oncoming traffic. The V1 does not recognize FM-CW modulation as a valid police radar signal and tries to reject it. FM-CW is allowed for license-free "Part 15" devices by the FCC. FM-CW is not allowed for police radar. There are numerous traffic-volume sensors using FM-CW spread all around metropolitan areas these days that detector owners would rather not produce an alert. Otherwise freeway driving (in Cincinnati, at least) would be very annoying. It's a good thing that the V1 rejects FM-CW modulated signals.

2) The speed sign may have drifted out of the police radar band from aging or temperature. "Part 15" devices are somewhat notorious for this behavior. Automatic door sensors and Doppler security sensors are both "Part 15" devices, too. Few automatic door sensors use FM-CW because of the added expense. The speed sign devices can afford the added cost of including the FM-CW modulating hardware.

3) The V1 in question may need for our service department to have a look at it to make sure it is operating correctly
 
  #15  
Old 07-08-2007, 11:57 PM
2thfixr's Avatar
Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: BFE
Posts: 4,078
Rep Power: 190
2thfixr is a splendid one to behold2thfixr is a splendid one to behold2thfixr is a splendid one to behold2thfixr is a splendid one to behold2thfixr is a splendid one to behold2thfixr is a splendid one to behold2thfixr is a splendid one to behold
Originally Posted by OldGuy
Same thing happened to me on Hwy 14 north of you. its K band and for a week my V1 didnt work on it. Then it started working again. I dont have a clue what happened. Really strange. I lost confidence in it for awhile. But it works fine now.
Paul, I hit that same speed box once a week and experienced the same thing. I ordered a new V1 just because of that stupid box then I saw Mike's response.
 


You have already rated this thread Rating: Thread Rating: 0 votes,  average.

Quick Reply: V1 not detecting speed signs



All times are GMT -6. The time now is 10:39 AM.