please don't confuse purchasing an elmo off the shelf at your toys r us for your 2 yr old with an agreed amount either verbal or written for an exotic car. I think there is a slight difference when the dealer is emphatic about how their procedure is and there is contractual agreement. mmbo....kay?

 

aren't u guys tired with this crap?

 

Seriously, it is ridiculous! And btw I think Steve deserves an apology from a few members who insulted his intelligience and so on, i'll say it again, some of you should be ashamed..

 

Kinda stupid question but when you place a deposit and sign the contract are they not legaly obligated to sell it to you? How is this not breach of contract? Has anyone hired a lawer to sue for breach of contract? If so this could send the shock waves through the industry.

 

it all boils down to how the document was prepared when the deposit was given.
more than likely there wasnt a contract stipulating delivery gaurantee...... probably just a vague receipt... ( i know i have one )
unless there were provisions for mediation/arbitration and recovery of legal fees it would be rediculous to litigate something like this IMO....

 

obviously not.

 

I am going to my local Dealership and getting a job as salesperson. I will let everyone know what their stock is and what their allocations are for the upcoming year. I will sell to the people who want the Porsche's and I will be creditable.

Adam

 

Here is a good start.

http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.js...e=&cardist=641

http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.js...=1&cardist=641

http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.js...=&cardist=2127

http://www.excellence-mag.com/classi...507.GT3RS.html

http://www.dupontregistry.com/autos/...?itemid=398056

http://www.dupontregistry.com/autos/...?itemid=390372

http://www.dupontregistry.com/autos/...?itemid=400092

http://www.dupontregistry.com/autos/...?itemid=398012

http://www.dupontregistry.com/autos/...?itemid=387047

http://www.dupontregistry.com/autos/...?itemid=371679

http://www.sloancars.com/vs1/detail.asp?CarID=270

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Porsc...32165212QQrdZ1

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Porsc...27999679QQrdZ1

http://rpmsportscars.com/door35.htm

 

This one is on rennlist classifieds.

 

Thanks Luis!!

BTW I doubt sloan has the car.

 

Oak, your post's make a lot of sense.

This issue is very important to the Porsche community. Deposits not honored and wait list ignored are concerns all buyers of Porsche should be able to discuss and elevated to Porsche.

If dealers can do this with the RS and not face sanctions from Porsche then they can do it to anyone even to the point where a car is delivered to dealership and some smock walks in and offers $10,000 over MSRP while the original buyer is standing there ready to take deliver. Ridiculous you think?

Think again. In the past, Porsche's were purchased by enthusiasts. Today, that is not the case. The pool of buyers has expanded and dealership are not beholden to any one customer. Porsche has mainstreamed the car except for some performance models which Porsche limited production on. As a result, dealers have a lot of traffic and some of these walkin individuals wanting to satisfy an itch will pay through the nose thus depriving the enthusiast a shot at the car.

Unless those that buy Porsche's frequently are able to air their grievances and stop this practice, they will be hurt the most. It clearly is an important enough issue to discuss.

 

to me it's very simple, said depsosit given for a "position" on a list for said vehicle for said price. "consideration" is given when depsosit is recieved by the dealership. simple ain't easy. binding once the dealership takes deposit as "consideration".

 

Have any of these people that have gotten "screwed" actually ordered these cars? So when the car came in it was not delivered to them?

The way I see it, no one has actually ordered their car, but the cars that the dealers are selling for over MSRP are not that person's car, but another car that the dealership got, either through someone who backed out of their car when it arrived, or they bought it from somewhere else.

Am I missing something?

 

Perhaps you should re-read the posts and avoid name calling? I wasn't referring to people with deposits.

 

what kills me most is that we are talking about $140-150k ( this is not chump change ) car..any dealer that treats a customer ( willing to spend over 100K for a CAR ) in an unfair manner doesn't deserve that customers business..let's face it folks a porsche or any other type of sports, exotic..etc ( car ) is a luxury ( a want ) and not a neccesity ( a need ).. some dealers need to recognize this.. the only way they will learn this, is when we take our business elsewhere..period