Another RS for Sale thread closed?
#31
please don't confuse purchasing an elmo off the shelf at your toys r us for your 2 yr old with an agreed amount either verbal or written for an exotic car. I think there is a slight difference when the dealer is emphatic about how their procedure is and there is contractual agreement. mmbo....kay?
#33
Originally Posted by 20C4S
aren't u guys tired with this crap?
#34
Kinda stupid question but when you place a deposit and sign the contract are they not legaly obligated to sell it to you? How is this not breach of contract? Has anyone hired a lawer to sue for breach of contract? If so this could send the shock waves through the industry.
#35
Originally Posted by K24madness
Kinda stupid question but when you place a deposit and sign the contract are they not legaly obligated to sell it to you? How is this not breach of contract? Has anyone hired a lawer to sue for breach of contract? If so this could send the shock waves through the industry.
more than likely there wasnt a contract stipulating delivery gaurantee...... probably just a vague receipt... ( i know i have one )
unless there were provisions for mediation/arbitration and recovery of legal fees it would be rediculous to litigate something like this IMO....
#37
Porsche Dealers and the questionable tactics!
I am going to my local Dealership and getting a job as salesperson. I will let everyone know what their stock is and what their allocations are for the upcoming year. I will sell to the people who want the Porsche's and I will be creditable.
Adam
Adam
#38
Originally Posted by OldGuy
I would like to see how many RSs are sitting on dealers lots across the country right now.
http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.js...e=&cardist=641
http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.js...=1&cardist=641
http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.js...=&cardist=2127
http://www.excellence-mag.com/classi...507.GT3RS.html
http://www.dupontregistry.com/autos/...?itemid=398056
http://www.dupontregistry.com/autos/...?itemid=390372
http://www.dupontregistry.com/autos/...?itemid=400092
http://www.dupontregistry.com/autos/...?itemid=398012
http://www.dupontregistry.com/autos/...?itemid=387047
http://www.dupontregistry.com/autos/...?itemid=371679
http://www.sloancars.com/vs1/detail.asp?CarID=270
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Porsc...32165212QQrdZ1
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Porsc...27999679QQrdZ1
http://rpmsportscars.com/door35.htm
#39
This one is on rennlist classifieds.
Description
This car is August 2007 built, following is a spec list for this car:
Total Order$ 150,515
BSEMDL BASE Porsche Base Model Y 124,900
BDYCLR J5 Green 3,070
TOPCLR J5 Green 0
INTERI 78 Black Full Leather 2,995
OPTION P74 Bi-Xenon Headlamp Package 1,090
OPTION XAJ Standard Rocker Panels Painted 750
OPTION 810 Floor Mats - Interior Color 90
OPTION 450 Ceramic Composite Brakes-PCCB 8,840
OPTION P23 PCM 2.1 w/ Extended Navigation 3,110
OPTION CNE Spoiler Lip Painted 585
OPTION CXF Red Taillights 640
OPTION XME Rear Ctr Cons Painted Extr Clr 730
OPTION 25851 Seat Stitch Deviating Clr. GT3 550 Y
OPTION 24901 Dashboard Stitching Dev. Color 240 Y
OPTION 24902 Door Stitching in Dev. Color 240 Y
OPTION 24903 Door Handle Stitching Dev.Clr. 470 Y
OPTION 24904 Dev.Stitching Side Centr Cnsl 240 Y
OPTION 24905 Rear Side Panel Dev.Stitching 310 Y
OPTION 640 Chrono Package Plus 690
Please contact Valery for more information @ v.shpolyansky@gmail.com or cell phone: (818) 726-5958
Seller Information
Type of Seller:
Dealer
Company:
2008 GT3-RS
Description
This car is August 2007 built, following is a spec list for this car:
Total Order$ 150,515
BSEMDL BASE Porsche Base Model Y 124,900
BDYCLR J5 Green 3,070
TOPCLR J5 Green 0
INTERI 78 Black Full Leather 2,995
OPTION P74 Bi-Xenon Headlamp Package 1,090
OPTION XAJ Standard Rocker Panels Painted 750
OPTION 810 Floor Mats - Interior Color 90
OPTION 450 Ceramic Composite Brakes-PCCB 8,840
OPTION P23 PCM 2.1 w/ Extended Navigation 3,110
OPTION CNE Spoiler Lip Painted 585
OPTION CXF Red Taillights 640
OPTION XME Rear Ctr Cons Painted Extr Clr 730
OPTION 25851 Seat Stitch Deviating Clr. GT3 550 Y
OPTION 24901 Dashboard Stitching Dev. Color 240 Y
OPTION 24902 Door Stitching in Dev. Color 240 Y
OPTION 24903 Door Handle Stitching Dev.Clr. 470 Y
OPTION 24904 Dev.Stitching Side Centr Cnsl 240 Y
OPTION 24905 Rear Side Panel Dev.Stitching 310 Y
OPTION 640 Chrono Package Plus 690
Please contact Valery for more information @ v.shpolyansky@gmail.com or cell phone: (818) 726-5958
Seller Information
Type of Seller:
Dealer
Company:
#41
Originally Posted by oak
obviously not.
This issue is very important to the Porsche community. Deposits not honored and wait list ignored are concerns all buyers of Porsche should be able to discuss and elevated to Porsche.
If dealers can do this with the RS and not face sanctions from Porsche then they can do it to anyone even to the point where a car is delivered to dealership and some smock walks in and offers $10,000 over MSRP while the original buyer is standing there ready to take deliver. Ridiculous you think?
Think again. In the past, Porsche's were purchased by enthusiasts. Today, that is not the case. The pool of buyers has expanded and dealership are not beholden to any one customer. Porsche has mainstreamed the car except for some performance models which Porsche limited production on. As a result, dealers have a lot of traffic and some of these walkin individuals wanting to satisfy an itch will pay through the nose thus depriving the enthusiast a shot at the car.
Unless those that buy Porsche's frequently are able to air their grievances and stop this practice, they will be hurt the most. It clearly is an important enough issue to discuss.
#42
to me it's very simple, said depsosit given for a "position" on a list for said vehicle for said price. "consideration" is given when depsosit is recieved by the dealership. simple ain't easy. binding once the dealership takes deposit as "consideration".
#43
Have any of these people that have gotten "screwed" actually ordered these cars? So when the car came in it was not delivered to them?
The way I see it, no one has actually ordered their car, but the cars that the dealers are selling for over MSRP are not that person's car, but another car that the dealership got, either through someone who backed out of their car when it arrived, or they bought it from somewhere else.
Am I missing something?
The way I see it, no one has actually ordered their car, but the cars that the dealers are selling for over MSRP are not that person's car, but another car that the dealership got, either through someone who backed out of their car when it arrived, or they bought it from somewhere else.
Am I missing something?
#44
Originally Posted by oak
please don't confuse purchasing an elmo off the shelf at your toys r us for your 2 yr old with an agreed amount either verbal or written for an exotic car. I think there is a slight difference when the dealer is emphatic about how their procedure is and there is contractual agreement. mmbo....kay?
Last edited by PTarga; 07-10-2007 at 06:16 PM.
#45
what kills me most is that we are talking about $140-150k ( this is not chump change ) car..any dealer that treats a customer ( willing to spend over 100K for a CAR ) in an unfair manner doesn't deserve that customers business..let's face it folks a porsche or any other type of sports, exotic..etc ( car ) is a luxury ( a want ) and not a neccesity ( a need ).. some dealers need to recognize this.. the only way they will learn this, is when we take our business elsewhere..period