Yes, many of us are already familiar with the different engine blocks and the quality of parts... no need to stress out.

The fact that the "cheapo" Carrera (w/ X51) can perform close 911 GT3 levels is an impressive fact alone.

Which brings us back to the point of this thread: The turbo is the best all around. its the fastest on the straights and can be modded for the track to yield performance similar to the GT3.

The RS is loud and exclusive and that much better for track use.

 

Nice car Freds, since you have both, would you mind to let me know why you deicde to keep the green and selling the TT right now?

The RS is it that more fun than the TT?

I have driven the 996 GT3 and TT, both are great, but the GT3 have way more fun than the TT. Both are really fast enough for street use, at least for me.

 

can you provide more reason?

 

for your admitted application of the car get your TT and impress your friends in a straight line. TT's are good cars and you'll love it. If you want a True car that's more fun to drive buy the RS. GT3's make you smile every time you drive them and feel great. Yes if you daily drive it the Clutch is stiffer and not the typical hydraulic feel a TT will have. Both cars are good. Woman understand Turbo over RS so if your looking for the female attention go for the Turbo. Better plan on 20k in improvements on the TT if you really want it to match the RS on track though.
Really since you want both worlds get a GT2 they are out soon. Than you have the TT and Track version. Just hold on to your shorts and be prepared for the ride of your life.

 

If I had to choose one to use as an every day car for rain or shine weather it would be the TT. It has stability control, a much better stereo, more luxury amenities and the GT3's cup tires are pretty hairy in the wet. The TT's torque curve is also better suited for everyday/traffic driving. The heavier clutch on the GT3 is a non issue to me as it's very easy to get used to.
If however it's not for everyday use or if your commute is a nice drive it's the GT3 all the way. It's plenty comfortable, not too loud and the ride is not to harsh, just a bit stiffer than my TT with PSS9's.
For just the pure driving experience, the GT3 puts a much bigger smile on my face than the TT does. It's not nearly as fast as the TT acceleration wise but it's fast enough.

 

SInce I have done this (try to make a tt into a track car) I can speak with authority on this- Gasman you have no idea how much money it takes to make a TT a decent track car. Its not worth it. If you want a top track car get a GT3 period. The TT motor is a fine motor and its a hoot. But its not linear. You have too many things to think about to worry about when EXACTLY the turbos are going to kick it. There is turbo lag despite what all the TT owners say I had one I know. mine had 500hp on 100oct. It takes an EXPERT driver to handle just the Turbo factor. Its not worth it. the GT3 motor is linear and you know exactly what response your going to get at what RPM and gear your in.
Thats why its the racers choice. And we havent even started on the suspension. Does the TT have adjustable sways-NO, is the suspension adjustable-to a small extent but for track work its not. So you have to get PSS9s or Motons or JRZs to get the kind of handling you get from a GT3 and then you still dont becuase now you have changed the geometry AND you still have a 500 pound boat anchor out the back. So now you have to spend thousands of dollars to rid yourself of what you bought in the first place a luxury 500hp autobahn cruiser. AC has to come out, new seats, you have to figure out out how to go to 2WD and ON and ON. The TT is just not worth it period. By the time you get done you have a 150K car with all its options that all you TT owners put on your porkers and then you have to spend another 30K to make it close to a GT3 in parts and weight loss work. SO you have a $180K car that still isnt as good as the $120K GT3 for what the GT3 was meant for.
The point is if you want a top rate street car king for occasional track work there is no better car than the TT. But if youre serious about your track work BUY the GT3 period. You can NOT get to the same place for anywhere near the same amount of money I know! If you want to make a small fortune in getting a TT to be like a GT3, start with a large fortune buy the TT then start spending money to try to get your car to be a GT3.
Minor suspension work? Hardly

 

Dude, who said anything about making the TT a track car? I was talking about making it as fast as an RS on a "tight" road course. If I was going to make a track only car I would obviously start with something a whole lot cheaper, then add a full cage, fuel cell, weight jacks etc...
The TT that WR ran a 7:40 on the ring ( yes I know it's a long track...), what tweaks did he have ? That's all I want to know.
Last time I checked the GT3 and the RS were street cars too.
Have a great weekend, I have to go back to work and put somebody to sleep.

 

Change tires to sport cups and turn PSM off.
Long thread about it here.

 

I am not going to track it, so are there any big difference between them on street?

How was the performance about the RS on street?

 

Not tracking the car, then it's the TT... Buy Fred's, enough said!!!

 

Turbo4Ever - trust the peopole who tell you that you want the TT. If you are not going to track it and you want near like street performance then the TT is your choice.

I debated over the same thing and ended up with a TT instead. It fit perfectly for that I wanted to do.

No Track - if I wanted to track heavily I would by a 964 or E36 M3 for that purpose.

 

The GT3 is a street car too, newsflash. If you're that hard core just buy a cup car and be done ****ing around.

 

from japan huh? as far as im concerned going straightline is the least what they care about... RS it is

 

Gasman when you said a tight road course I took it to mean you want it to be a serious track car.
And by the way if youre (anyone not just you Gasman and fellow Texan)
come into the GT3 forum and dis the GT3 and say the TT is just a good of track machine as the GT3 expect the debate to be heated. If you want to say that in the TT forum and I was cruising there I would be more diplomatic, thats your place and I respect that. I dont know why everyone gets so defensive when you come IN to the GT3 forum and try to pass off the TT as a better machine than the GT3. That would be like me going into Ferrarichat and telling those guys that the 360-430 is inferior to the 911. They probably are inferior to the GT3 but I dont go in there and say that. Thats their house.


Chris We have alot of tracks around here some guys dont like to
A: trailer their car to the track (good trailer is 5K and up more like 12k++ -Tow vehicle is a good 40K for a diesel) Not worth the expense to me
B: race wheel to wheel--- just DEs-- that would be me
I am going to keep $50-60K tied up in a sparsely used depreciating asset? no thanks
Plus a cup car is more expensive to maintain and the radio sucks.
the GT3 is the best street car for me.
I was taking my TT to the track more and more and it cost more and more to get it where I wanted it for track work -with no ego involved I came to the decision that the
GT3 was what I was trying to create and Porsche already made it right out of the box.
FOR LESS!!!
Outside of my obsession with getting it the way I want aesthetically -no mods are required.
Buy it go to the track-Greatest street car ever made for what I want.

Are you saying the GT3 is not good for anything? If we want to track our cars alot we should buy a cup car?

A cup car is not practical. You cant drive it to work or anywhere on the open road and out here there are a TON of guys who want to track and want to drive to their track
and stop on the way back and get momma a bottle of vino.

Turbo 4Ever I think the TT is the car for you. You will kick everybodys butt on most typical street applications and it does it with great ease and comfort. You can take it to the track and do most things that you want to do. Its a fantastic car for what it was made for. You wont notice the advantages the GT3 has over the TT (other than the greatest sound to ever come out of a 911!!) and you would notice the disadvantages of the GT3 compared to the TT in your stated use.
The TT is everyones a dream car and it is deservedly so. If I could I would have two a TT and GT3

 

First off ,I did the trailer/truck/race car thing for alot of years, been there, done that. Anything but a dedicated track car is a compromise. The TT is great on the street, adequate(read good enough) on the track. The reverse is true for the GT3. A street car that does well at the track, but a race car it is not, sorry.
All I'm saying is, if you only want a track beast, don't waste 110k$ on a street car, just go out and get a purpose built car, or build your own. You'll be money ahead. But you know what, this thread has become a pissing match gt3 vs tt, I say drive whatever the **** you want to, anywhere you want, and I'll post that on any board, gt3 or tt. Heading out to Watkins Glen in my POS TT tomorrow, I'll try and stay out of y'all gt3 boys' way in red. Out.